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Renegade · May 27, 2017

What an evil, evil man.

https://www.facebook.com/conservatives/videos/vb.8807334278/10155027173824279/?type=2&theater

Ciderhead · May 27, 2017

Not exactly the biggest issue in the context of this election, but since this is a football forum.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/20...promises-flexible-train-ticket-football-fans/

God forbid we see such sensible ideas put forward

markwwfc1992 · May 27, 2017

Ciderhead said:
Not exactly the biggest issue in the context of this election, but since this is a football forum.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/20...promises-flexible-train-ticket-football-fans/

God forbid we see such sensible ideas put forward

I'll probably vote Labour now :lol:

JaseTheVillain · May 27, 2017

Oh Yougov, why must you limit me to three?

Renegade · May 27, 2017

c***
c***
c***

I notice that stable is missing.

JaseTheVillain · May 27, 2017

I went with:

Foolish
Dishonest
Out of touch

I felt they were the most fitting.

Krazy8 · May 27, 2017

Surely it should be;

Strong
And
Stable

JaseTheVillain · May 27, 2017

Krazy8 said:
Surely it should be;

Strong
And
Stable

If those were answers I genuinely would have done that. :lol:

Jockney · May 28, 2017

She's selfish, impatient and a little insecure. She makes mistakes and, at times, is a little hard to handle.

But if you can't handle her at her worst, then you sure as hell don't deserve her at her best.

Stevencc · May 28, 2017

JaseTheVillain said:
Oh Yougov, why must you limit me to three?

"Out of touch"
"In touch"
"None of them".

BeesKnees · May 28, 2017

Dementia tax explained

https://twitter.com/EL4JC/status/868894856818700294

BigDaveCUFC · May 28, 2017

its a superb done video that for just a p*ss take.

IT does very much highlight the biggest drawback from it.........the last 8-10 years have pretty much starved the average working person from being able at all to A: own a home or B: generate any kind of savings. I like many work full time and wages pretty much just cover the costs, mostly becuse if you get a raise per year, you can guarantee all your costs also go up per year.

The chances at present of owning a home are slim, so i am renting which for me i don't mind as my fallback is my grandparents, parents and uncle/auntie have promised homes to sell between me and my sister so that down the line we can at least use that money to not have to rent when 65-70 odd and of course we'd then use our home (purchased through them sales) and pass them down etc, etc.....not a great set-up but pretty much only one that works for us (and probably a few more)

Now of course this fall back is also likely to get taken from us and will in the long-term f*ck this country up when they find my age range in 40 odd years needing care, but with no homes to sell off.

it just won't work in the longer term.

smat · May 29, 2017

Aber gas said:
The Scum forced to apologise to Corbyn. On their front page.
Have that you fucking worthless vultures

I think that's from 2015.

Aber gas · May 29, 2017

smat said:
I think that's from 2015.

It is.

Abertawe · May 29, 2017

Could be the moment it all changes tonight. Really can't see May doing well if Paxman goes savage.

BigDaveCUFC · May 29, 2017

too pre-prepared and conservatives have been superb at that area for a while, although whether May can be like cameron in regards to the pre-prepared style we shall see.

It's a question of which can defend their one area better........May on Dementia Tax and corbyn on Terrorists.....that is bound to be the Paxman attack on either.

.V. · May 29, 2017

Really hoping for Corbyn to pull this off tonight and May to crumble. Regardless I'm not sure how many floating voters will be watching.

Abertawe · May 29, 2017

I thought he did well. Can't quite see Paxman not allowing May to finish a sentence like he was doing to our Jez.

.V. · May 29, 2017

The comments made about May did make me chuckle.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/05/this-is-the-worst-tory-election-campaign-ever/

BigDaveCUFC · May 29, 2017

I thought both were doing well and getting good answers to their big criticisms ..........until Paxman here with May......he's absolutely destroyed her here.

and your right Abertawe he certainly isn't butting in like he did with corbyn, but i think that has left May stewing in her own problems.

BigDaveCUFC · May 29, 2017

The other thing i am starting to get from the last month is for all we've been told and told and told that the only people able to do negotiations with brexit is May and the conservatives................i am now sure the only people who could even attempt at negotiating is Corbyn and Labour.

Mostly because i think the tories have so many hardliners in their party who won't accept this, that and other that it will be almost impossible for them to even agree to a deal.

If Labour started to push that point they could maybe swing leave voters to go with them instead of tory as expected. Plus all this talk of 'no deal' what are the consequences of no deal?

JaseTheVillain · May 29, 2017

BigDaveCUFC said:
The other thing i am starting to get from the last month is for all we've been told and told and told that the only people able to do negotiations with brexit is May and the conservatives................i am now sure the only people who could even attempt at negotiating is Corbyn and Labour.

Mostly because i think the tories have so many hardliners in their party who won't accept this, that and other that it will be almost impossible for them to even agree to a deal.

Agreed, I believe that the Tories are fully intending on leaving the EU with no deal at all, and as has been said many times, what the hell does 'no deal' entail? Labour are the only ones who will even bother negotiating, and I agree with Paxman's assessment that EU leaders believe May is a 'blow hard who would collapse at the first sign of gunfire', I genuinely feel that Labour is the only way forward here.

BigDaveCUFC said:
If Labour started to push that point they could maybe swing leave voters to go with them instead of tory as expected. Plus all this talk of 'no deal' what are the consequences of no deal?

Quite possible, I'm a leave voter but I'd MUCH rather have Labour negotiating with the EU on our exit terms than the Tories, hoping a fair few floating voters were watching tonight, it once again showed May to be wobbly and Corbyn able to defend himself much better than weak and wobbly, blow hard May.

.V. · May 29, 2017

Worth checking out #TheresaMayGIFs on twitter right now.

Aberstone · May 29, 2017

I actually thought May had a reasonably strong ending after being bombarded with reminders of previous failed pledges and repetitive u-turns. Not sure what Paxman was trying to get at asking if she'd walk away from the negotiating table with the EU having repeatedly stated that no deal is better than a bad deal.

If I'm in the Labour media team right now, I play the Tories at their own game and constantly remind them of their claims back in 2010 to get immigration down to the tens of thousands and have the deficit wiped out by 2015.

BigDaveCUFC · May 29, 2017

On the flip side just to be fair on the debate, i still have huge doubts on Corbyn regarding his inability to act against aggression. I have always personally been of the view WW2 happened because France and the UK spent too long debating, f*cking about and trying to dodge aggression all while allowing Hitler to build up his forces, take what land he wanted and do anything he linked time and again until it was too late.

Just down to his Falklands views suggests we'd just lost the Falklands to Argentina without any bother......makes me worry that Russia could easily impose itself without us doing anything to make them think otherwise with a Corbyn led UK and it would weaken EU position of power in that aspect.

Abertawe · May 29, 2017

Morons clapping "no deal is better than a bad deal"

Err, no it isn't, it'd be literally the shittest decision this country could possibly make.

JaseTheVillain · May 29, 2017

BigDaveCUFC said:
On the flip side just to be fair on the debate, i still have huge doubts on Corbyn regarding his inability to act against aggression. I have always personally been of the view WW2 happened because France and the UK spent too long debating, f*cking about and trying to dodge aggression all while allowing Hitler to build up his forces, take what land he wanted and do anything he linked time and again until it was too late.

But that, in today's world, is literally impossible. This won't happen again. If a WW3 kicked off it'd be due to Russia/US continuing to piss about, and let's face it, that happens again, we're all screwed regardless of trident usage or otherwise.

BigDaveCUFC said:
Just down to his Falklands views suggests we'd just lost the Falklands to Argentina without any bother......makes me worry that Russia could easily impose itself without us doing anything to make them think otherwise with a Corbyn led UK and it would weaken EU position of power in that aspect.

I disagree, the Germans would stand up to Russia, as would we if shit went too far. Regarding the Falklands, we wouldn't have lost them, nor would we now, as the public outcry would be massive enough to prompt a response regardless.

BeesKnees · May 29, 2017

Was very impressed with Corbyn's ability to engage with the audience. Paxmans one liner is going to hurt May.

New poll out as well
Westminster voting intention:

CON: 43% (-)
LAB: 37% (+3)
LDEM: 8% (-)
UKIP: 4% (-)

(via @Survation / 26 - 27 May)

Laker · May 29, 2017

Paxman spoilt that really. I get that his interview style is his "gimmick" but it'd be helpful if he'd let Corbyn answer the question before trying to badger him on it. Corbyn did well to keep his cool as it was unprofessional and rude, to be honest.

Thought May was all at sea until the Brexit negotiation part. Many people might not agree with her but many more do.

Techno Natch · May 29, 2017

The Falklands are British so it's totally different to not wanting to wade into other conflicts on behalf of our biggest allies.

Have to say that Paxman was utterly dreadful in my opinion. He just kept repeating the same crap over and over.

I really think May is bluffing on the no deal to sound like she will be hard. No deal is an absolutely awful deal but none of us really know or understand the complexities of it so she can claim it's the best deal we can get.

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