Big Sam investigation

[GodsGift]

It turns out, shock horror, Big Sam is a bit of a dodgy bastard.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...ation-england-manager-sam-allardyce-for-sale/

 

[Super_horns]

Some might say he has a point with some of those comments but a PR mess.

 

[ValeMouth]

I fucking hate the English media sometimes. What are they trying to gain? Well apart from the obvious paper sales..disrupting the national side and trying to disgrace our new manager. I wonder if Germany or Brazil or Argentina do this. It's a fucking disgrace.

 

[GodsGift]

What are they trying to gain? Doing their job by uncovering corruption and bribery, perhaps? This is the same "disgraceful" British media that uncovered the widescale corruption at FIFA and the true extent of Lance Armstrong's doping.

The only person disgracing the English manager is Big Sam himself.

 

[ValeMouth]

It's not for the good of the game tho is it. They aren't uncovering corruption either, it's not like he is out to bribe or corrupt before they go in and dangle a fake golden carrot in front of him. Just surprised they didn't wait till a month before the world cup. Fuck the telegraph.

Oh and it was the fbi who uncovered the fifa scandal, you know, real detective's, not some gutter press

 

[GodsGift]

It's not for the good of the game tho is it. They aren't uncovering corruption either, it's not like he is out to bribe or corrupt before they go in and dangle a fake golden carrot in front of him. Just surprised they didn't wait till a month before the world cup. Fuck the telegraph.

Oh and it was the fbi who uncovered the fifa scandal, you know, real detective's, not some gutter press

So you genuinely don't see any problem with the manager of the English national team, an ambassador for the FA, dishing out advice on how to flout the FA's own rules?

The FBI's findings came on the back of years of investigation by the Sunday Times. Blatter wouldn't have been brought down had it not been for the British media. This is proper investigative journalism we're talking about, not tabloid shit from the Mirror or Sun. You obviously have a problem with journalists doing what they're paid to do.

 

[G-Dragon]

This is funny now. Love it.

 

[ValeMouth]

So you genuinely don't see any problem with the manager of the English national team, an ambassador for the FA, dishing out advice on how to flout the FA's own rules?

Sam doesn't look good in this obviously but it's worse behaviour from the press. I'm not a huge Sam fan but in this case I'm not jumping on his back. He's old school and we wanted/needed something different. At least he isn't a yes man, I'm only interested in whether he can win us a world cup or not and this doesn't help.

 

[Stevencc]

Do we reckon he will manage to survive this and stay on as England manager?

 

[ValeMouth]

I thought journalists were paid to report on news not make up fake companies with the intent of setting someone up then report shock horror when they got what they came for. Fuck it then sack big Sam, get the next mug in then do it again to him and repeat to fade and we will never win Fuck all in my lifetime

 

[AnimoEtFide]

What exactly does this £400,000 'agreement' that he thinks he's making entail? Maybe I'm being a bit thick, but the article doesn't really make it clear. From what I can the article tries to allude a connection to Allardyce advising on how to get round FA rules on third-party ownership, probably for sensationalist purposes, when in fact all Allardyce does it make some rather ill-advised (though perfectly true) comments about how easy it is to get around those rules quite independently of the agreement.

The rest of the comments about Hodgson, Wembley, etc suggest bad judgement at most for speaking so freely to blokes he doesn't know rather than anything more sinister. They also happen to be things that pretty much everyone would agree with.

 

[AnimoEtFide]

I should also add that I'm all for investigative journalists sniffing around anything to do with football. I really couldn't give a crap how it impacts on the England team.

 

[JimJams]

What a thick c***.

 

[Stevencc]

I thought journalists were paid to report on news not make up fake companies with the intent of setting someone up then report shock horror when they got what they came for. Fuck it then sack big Sam, get the next mug in then do it again to him and repeat to fade and we will never win Fuck all in my lifetime

Well, maybe they try this sort of stuff all the time with high-profile managers - particularly those who get to manage the national side, and they don't all succumb to it? You'd think they were earning enough money through legitimate means, after all.

 

[Destruction]

Do we reckon he will manage to survive this and stay on as England manager?

Absolutely. The FA are a bunch of corrupt dickheads anyway, they'll just issue some public statement about a behind closed doors telling off and that will be that.

 

[Aber gas]

Do we reckon he will manage to survive this and stay on as England manager?

Big Sam won't give a fuck. He's a straight talking football man with balls bigger than my head. Just who do these fancy dan, so called " journalists " think they are investigating England's saviour?
I think I speak for all right minded people when I sincerely hope Sam takes these effeminate muckrakers outside for a good old fashioned straightener.
Good day.

 

[T.A]

It sounds dodgy but has he actually broken any rules? It might be morally wrong but I don't think he's done anything illegal. He fucking stupid though and he probably will be sacked.

 

[Nilsson]

The good man was merely stating facts.

Sacking him would be wholly unnecessary.

I have no doubt that this is an attack from Scotland, but this will only make us stronger.

 

[G-Dragon]

Seriously...what a disgrace Big Sam is. Dragging the England name through mud. Sack him and make Stevie G the new England manager.

 

[jacobncfc]

I fucking hate the English media sometimes. What are they trying to gain? Well apart from the obvious paper sales..disrupting the national side and trying to disgrace our new manager. I wonder if Germany or Brazil or Argentina do this. It's a fucking disgrace.

They're doing their fucking job, man. No one is at fault here apart from Allardyce, can't see any way that he survives it.

 

[Mustard]

I thought journalists were paid to report on news not make up fake companies with the intent of setting someone up then report shock horror when they got what they came for. Fuck it then sack big Sam, get the next mug in then do it again to him and repeat to fade and we will never win Fuck all in my lifetime

Fuck that. Investigative journalism is real journalism and ten times better than pumping out story after story of what #Pogback has been eating for breakfast.

That being said, it's hard to know exactly what Allardyce has actually (as in legally rather than morally) done wrong yet. Hopefully more details will emerge.

 

[Murphy]

BIG SAM IN

(Drunk admittedly)

 

[Benji]

Are they in Wings at the end of that video? Everything in football starts in Wings.

 

[Richard Cranium]

Just remove L1 and below. That should fix the national team.

 

[GodsGift]

What exactly does this £400,000 'agreement' that he thinks he's making entail? Maybe I'm being a bit thick, but the article doesn't really make it clear. From what I can the article tries to allude a connection to Allardyce advising on how to get round FA rules on third-party ownership, probably for sensationalist purposes, when in fact all Allardyce does it make some rather ill-advised (though perfectly true) comments about how easy it is to get around those rules quite independently of the agreement.

The rest of the comments about Hodgson, Wembley, etc suggest bad judgement at most for speaking so freely to blokes he doesn't know rather than anything more sinister. They also happen to be things that pretty much everyone would agree with.

From the BBC: "It is alleged by the paper that a deal was struck with the England boss worth £400,000 for him to represent the company to Far East investors, and to be a keynote speaker at events."

 

[AnimoEtFide]

From the BBC: "It is alleged by the paper that a deal was struck with the England boss worth £400,000 for him to represent the company to Far East investors, and to be a keynote speaker at events."

Whilst it's a bit grubby it's not the high-level corruption the Telegraph wanted to imply. Calls for him to be sacked are certainly a bit hysterical. It'll blow over in a couple of days.

 

[MJA]

The daft thing in all of this is that the FA will probably say they see nothing wrong with Sam accepting payment to help people bypass certain rules but will sack him for daring to say it was stupid to rebuild Wembley. The FA like yes men in the England managers role and won't like someone saying they are stupid

 

[MJA]

I fucking hate the English media sometimes. What are they trying to gain? Well apart from the obvious paper sales..disrupting the national side and trying to disgrace our new manager. I wonder if Germany or Brazil or Argentina do this. It's a fucking disgrace.

If they had dug into his past and found that he once did a line of coke off a prostitutes left arse cheek whilst in his younger years to try and create a story that isn't there then I would agree with you. However, this is a bit more serious than the usual dross the English media drag up considering it would appear that Big Sam is accepting some sort of payment to help people flout rules (allegedly!!!).

As for the other nations, I am sure their media is just as bad as ours as journo's are generally the same breed from all over the world. In fact isn't Argentinian football in a state of chaos at the moment with most of their players threatening to quit playing for their nation because of how their FA acts?

 

[MJA]

Just remove L1 and below. That should fix the national team.

There would be more chance of our national team improving if we did the opposite and removed the 2 leagues above L1

 

[Abertawe]

Sam is a lad. He hasn't done anything horrendously wrong. If owt he got respect when he flipped his lid about bunging players.