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Football reforms.

Discussion in 'General Football Chat' started by claret50, Jun 18, 2017.

  1. claret50

    claret50 Site Supporter Site Supporter

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  2. Look Out There Are Llamas

    Look Out There Are Llamas Llamas ._.

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    "Another proposal involves changing the order of kick-taking in penalty shoot-outs, known as 'ABBA'. It is similar to a tie-break in tennis, with team A taking the first kick, then team B taking two, then team A taking two. That is a change from the traditional 'team A, team B, team A, team B' pattern."

    Oh fuck no. This is the only advantage punters have over bookmakers!
     
  3. The Paranoid Pineapple

    The Paranoid Pineapple Well-Known Member

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  4. Son of Cod

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    They don't. They absolutely fucking don't.
     
  5. claret50

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    Each to their own SoC, each to their own.
     
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  6. lordofthepies

    lordofthepies A shit Martino

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    They did this during the under 20 world cup. I think it is potentially a good idea but it clearly confused the Venezuela goalkeeper because he didn't actually realise that his team had won when Uruguay missed a penalty.
     
  7. markwwfc1992

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    Why try and fix something that isn't broken in the first place? Leave the current rules as they are.
     
  8. DarkSithLord

    DarkSithLord Well-Known Member Staff Member Moderator

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    ^ This. A lot of it is changes for changes sake.
     
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    Well, if it's open season for rule changes, here's a few I've always said need changing.

    • Saturday matches start at 3pm. Every Saturday.
    • Every match in the PL and EFL will be played at 3pm on a Saturday. If people want to watch matches on Fridays, Sundays, Mondays, fucking Tuesdays, lunchtime, midnight, whatever, they can go to Currys and buy a recorder. 3pm. Saturday.
    • All football results to be read out by the voice of James Alexander Gordon. If modern computer technology can give a realistic voice to that ventriloquist's dummy Michael Gove then it can bring the legend James Alexander Gordon's voice back to life.
    • Sunday matches only if the home team is a recognised beach resort and only permitted during August, September and April. No. That doesn't include Middlesbrough. How can you possibly think Middlesbrough's a resort!?
    • Contentious decisions to be made not by fourth official, but by volume of response of home crowd. (This has already been successfully trialled in West London and Manchester)
    • Players who writhe in agony on the ground for 5 minutes get sent off if there is absolutely zero sign of any injury 2 minutes later after play restarts.
    • No substitutions allowed in last 5 minutes of match if team is ahead by one goal.
    • Players who close one nostril with finger than blast eight foot string of snot onto the pitch required to immediately lick it up.
    • Agents to have far greater control of football clubs but only when transfers being negotiated.
    • Clubs all to have kits changed to colour of logo of shirt sponsor, or to lucky national colour of club owner.
    • All fans required to listen patiently and silently to club Chairman when the latter is explaining what the club's heritage means to them since discovering the town last Thursday.
    • All stewards required to mince.
    • All players required to have a mullet and wear microphones like rugby umpires.
    • Players' shirts to have a horizontally 'tear' perforation so easy to see foul play when playing Ipswich.
    • Birmingham City fans not allowed to park their flat-bed Transits or horse and carts within 2 miles of any ground nor to make collections during half-time.
    • Players not allowed to leave pitch at half-time and get a plate of oranges handed around instead.
    • Players not allowed to score shedloads of goals against former clubs. No, seriously, this does my fucking head in. Look, I know a couple of the other proposed rules are a bit silly but this one really needs to be implemented before we play Burton Albion or Birmingham again.
     
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  10. Super_horns

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    Well the goal given for a handball on the line might be a good idea but things like reducing a half probably won't make much difference to a team time wasting!

    They will probably just get even worse..
     
  11. Veggie Legs

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    Changing the penalty shootout order to make it fairer is a great idea, that certainly is something that's broken and needs fixing.

    I also approve of a "clearer and more consistent definition" of handball - I think the law is pretty clear but I see far too many handballs given when it's not deliberate - and some the measures to combat time wasting are worth trying out too.
     
  12. Look Out There Are Llamas

    Look Out There Are Llamas Llamas ._.

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    Just to illustrate the penalty shootout thing, statistically the team that takes the first penalty kick has a 62pc chance of winning the shootout.
     
  13. HarvSFC

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    My idea on tackling time wasting is when a player goes down for a number of minutes they should then have to leave the field for how many minutes they've been down for, rather than sprinting straight back onto the pitch.

    Those seriously injured have to be subbed off anyway, while it would help speed up any stoppages/stop players from going down on the pitch rather than leaving the field of play to receive treatment.

    We just saw in the England v Scotland game. We were on the attack, a player was down in there box, referee stops play. Scotland boot the ball back to Joe Hart and relieve pressure. There's no advantage to the other team.
     
  14. JaseTheVillain

    JaseTheVillain Beerus is coming for you. Site Supporter

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    I like the ABBA shootout rule. The rest can fuck off. ESPECIALLY the 60 minute game proposal.
     
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    my own personal view on the 30 minute halves is i believe it has zero to do with time-wasting and more to do with making the game similar to their beloved american sports.
     
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    Yup. Probably to make the game more 'attractive' to American audiences. It'll be played in 4 quarters too eventually.
     
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    I predict that three rule changes come off. And if the ball isn't in the net it isn't a goal, period. Changing that is fucked up.
     
  18. Cornish Piskie

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    Firstly, I agree the proposal that any player who requires treatment on the pitch should retire from the game for a period of play equal or longer to that which was taken up by the treatment. Two minutes of physio time onfield = 2 minutes mandatory recovery time and then the player can only come back on at the next break in play. In order that no team is penalised for having a player genuinely injured by a foul committed by an opponent (rather than "Oooh, ref, I think I've tweaked a hammy"), then consideration should be given that the offender must also retire for the same period, thus both teams are reduced.

    Also, any player who is "injured" (a word with a very broad definition in football) and is off the pitch while play is still live should not be allowed to mock-hobble back on the field then collapse in a big snotty heap and start slapping the ground to show the world the mortal agony he is in. Any player who does return to the pitch in such a way must be yellow carded under law 12 "entering or re-entering the field of play without the referee's permission". The law to deal with this offence exists. So why not use it..?

    Secondly, I would like to see is the introduction of a game clock. Instead of the nugatory addition of a number of minutes at the end of each half, which referees seem to be disinterested in so they simply add on four at the end of the second half regardless of how much time is lost or wasted, and players treat with contempt under the spurious title of "game management" (which is time wasting by any other name), simply replace "real time" with the introduction of a game clock which must be stopped in certain situations or at the referees discretion.

    An example of a mandatory stoppage would be a substitution. The second the board is lifted by the fourth official, the game clock stops. This would eliminate, for instance, the transparently cynical practice of any player who knows he is about to be subbed wandering to the far side of the pitch and taking several minutes to amble slowly back across to be replaced. It might also render pointless the practice of managers whose team is leading by an odd goal to waste time by making multiple changes in stoppage time. There'd be no point in doing either of those things if they could see on the big screen that the game clock is stopped.

    An example of a discretionary stoppage may be when a goalkeeper decides he wants to re-spot a goal kick several times. Such a discretionary stoppage would also be a mandatory yellow card offence.

    Thirdly, if play is stopped for an injury (also a mandatory stoppage of the game clock) when no Law 12 offence has taken place, then the restart is carried out by an uncontested dropped ball in favour of the team last in possession, either at the point where play was stopped, or where the ball alighted if not in the possession of any one player at that point.

    My motivation and rationale for these changes is to help ensure that, as much as is humanly possible, there is 90 minutes of game time in a match, and that cynical or unsporting practices to waste time are either deterred or punished.
     
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    referees can only blow for half-time or full-time when the ball goes out of play

    I'd vote for this.
     
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