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Stickied German Football

Discussion in 'Worldwide Domestic Football' started by mistermagic, Jan 18, 2015.

  1. Super_horns

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    Hoffenheim's very young manager must be turning a few heads with his impressive management this season!

    Another decent win for them in Berlin.
     

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    2 brilliant HSV news this week. First The important 2-1 win against Cologne (Lewis Holtby 2 Mins in stoppage time ) and even more important: HSV Idol Uwe Seeler's back operation wasn't due to a malign tumor as he said before (my sweetest error he said after the op).
    Although I am actually at the hospital myself this (wrong) cancer news of my greatest football idol was more shocking for me than my own situation. Thank god that it wasn't as serious as predicted by Uwe himself.
     
  3. mistermagic

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    Looks like the top 4 race is a foregone conclusion. 7 points seperate Dortmund and Berlin.

    At the bottom, Ingolstadt and Darmstadt are pretty much relegated. The race to not end 16th looks exciting though with Mainz, Wolfsburg and Augsburg all on 29 points (before today's games). The league is quite tight further up the table as Köln (6th) are only 8 points clear of the play-off spot which is not a lot this late in the season.
     
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    Mainz really in free fall - 4 defeats in a row.
     
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    4? Today's is the 3rd I think.

    The race to go up is hotting up. Hannover beat Union 2-0 in the big game which puts the hosts just a point behind the visitors of the day along with Stuttgart (who drew 3-3 at home to Dresden) and Braunschweig (1-0 win at Lautern). 2 of these 4 will go up directly. Hopefully whoever finishes 3rd will give it their best shot.

    At the bottom, St Pauli lost the big game at Aue 0-1 and currently occupy the play-off spot. 1860 won at Düsseldorf and are now 6 points clear. Great stuff!
     
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  6. Dirk

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    Last week: Hoffenheim vs Bayern 1-0 (1st leg: 1-1) . So they came with some hope to "Fortress Volkspark" (HSV unbeaten for 9 matches here) and the result:
    HSV vs Hoffenheim 2-1 (1st leg: 2-2)

    HSV got 4 out of 6 points from high flyers Hoffenheim. And with Mainz losing for the 5th time (and maybe Augsburg today, too) they already have 4 points gap from #16. Next week the Duel against our northern friends from Werder Bremen. Unfortunately Papadopoulos is now out too after his yellow card, Ekdal and Djourou too (ok, Djourou is no big loss actually). A draw at Bremen would be great especially because Werder is actually on a great run.
     
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    Ingolstadt beating Darmstadt this afternoon is massive. Just a point from Augsburg now with a better goal difference.
     
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    Yeh, Darmstadt choking that lead is the final nail for them. Ingolstadt however have put together a good run at a great time. Augsburg and Mainz must be scared - both are in shocking form. Hamburg v Bremen will be a good contest, although with Werder being the hosts I would fancy them to win considering their recent run. The race for 5th and 6th looks like it's going to go right to the wire, though if I had to pick now I would say it's going to be Gladbach and Koln just edging out Freiburg.

    Got to credit Bayern too, they've generally been nowhere near as good as they were under Pep this season, but in recent weeks especially they have picked up a lot. Their matches v Madrid will be interesting.
     
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    I am enjoying very much Leipzig's season despite some recent drops and the distancing from Bayern on the table. Good to see the boy Selke receiving more space in the team (didn't see him being put to play this much in the beginning to mid-season, don't know why, was he injured or just personal option of the coach?). I followed some Uxx competions from german national team since around 2015 and Selke always had incontestable huge performances.
     
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    Wolfsburg vs Ingolstadt aka Volkswagen vs. Audi 3-0 (or Lower Saxony vs Bavaria 3-0 ;) ). Mario Gomez again with a goal. Seems he scores in nearly every match under Andries Jonker. And with his goal against Ingolstadt he has now scored against every actual Bundesliga Club

    Open house at Hoffenheim vs Gladbach with 8 Goals (5-3), RB Leipzig with no problems against Freiburg (4-0) and Mainz wins for the first time after 5 consecutive losses with 1-0 against Hertha BSC. Augsburg wins 2-1 against FC Cologne. This means that both, Mainz and Augsburg now have 32 points. So my HSV (33 points) needs tomorrow a good result too against Rival Werder Bremen. The most played match in the Bundesliga is hopefully a cracker tomorrow. A draw would be fine.
     
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    Tight as ever at the bottom then!

    What about in Buli 2?
     
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    Even tighter in the 2.Bundesliga (top and bottom here).
    Today was the traditional Lower Saxonian match between rivals Hannover 96 and Eintracht Braunschweig at the Niedersachsenstadion (or as it is called nowadays HDI Arena). Full house of course and 96 won for the first time in 19 years with 1-0 and is now top of the league with 56 points (Braunschweig now 3rd with 54). Stuttgart with 1 game less is 2nd with 54 and could move to 1st with a win at Arminia Bielefeld on Monday. Union Berlin is 4th with 51 and has to play at home against 13th Kaiserslautern.
     
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    I'd be over the moon with Union in the Bundesliga. Proper bloody chuffed I'd be.

    At the bottom, huge win for St Pauli (1-0 against Würzburger) which makes them 14th, their highest league position since late September! Karlsruhe lost again and relegation is only a matter of time now (10 points from the play-off spot with 5 games to go). As said above, Bielefeld travel to Stuttgart this evening while Aue lost at Nürnberg.
    One side that has emerged as another contender is Kaiserslautern. They've been mid-table most of the season but one win in 8 means that they find themselves 15th which is a very dangerous position. Don't want them to go down to the 3rd division. Superb stadium and massive fanbase. Always take a lot on away games as well.

    Wie geht's das Derby, Dirk?
     
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    Eisern Union. Jens Keller is doing a marvellous job there. One of very few clubs of the former German "Democratic" Republic that I really like and I would be nice to see them in the top flight (but not at the expense of Braunschweig. It's my Alma mater there and I have a special relationship to this old city)
    Great to see St.Pauli out of the relegation places. Long months both Hamburg clubs where botton of their respective leagues. Not a good sign for Germany's 2nd city. But now both are out of it and will stay out for the rest of the season (i've never lost faith for both)

    This would be disaster for the Pfalz. Kaiserslautern is an institution. Really huge fan base and the club of Fritz Walter can't play in the third league.

    Don't remind me of it. 1-0 in front and.......I really "hate" Max Kruse.
     
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    Tomorrow I'll be at the Volksparkstadion for the first time since the Hertha Match on March 5th. 6 long weeks I couldn't make it (you all know the reason why) but now I am "cleared" by the docs (maybe they think that Darmstadt isn't a "danger" for my heart :D ). I am really thankful for that. Hopefully my HSV won't spoil it for me. 3 pts nothing else is allowed here!!!!
     
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    HSV vs Darmstadt 98 1-2

    It was a catastrophe. Absolutely weird this one. Some HSV fans were talking before the match only about if it will be 3 or 4-0. And then the delay at the beginning where some idiots (unfortunately HSV fans) "celebrated" and the smoke covered the whole ground. That wasn't helpful at all for the HSV players. But in the first half they should have made 2 goals and then in the 2nd Darmstadt hat 2 chances and scored twice and that was it. But I had my fears already yesterday in my post
    Of course they did!

    I know my team. Nothing is safe here. HSV was unbeaten in the last 9 Home matches. Darmstadt has lost all its 14 away matches in this season and scored a meagre 6 goals in those 14 matches. So we should have expected this outcome ;)
     
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    Because Bayern and Dortmund are where they are in the league, this doesn't mean that the winners of the Borussia/Frankfurt semi final automatically qualify for the Europa league even if they don't win the final?
    I believe that the automatic qualifying place goes to the sixth placed BL team with the team in seventh being granted access to the Europa League qualifiers? Can anyone confirm that?
    Thanks...
     
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    I can confirm this.

    There was a rule change for the 2015/2016 season that, if the Cup Winner qualifies also for the Champions League, the runner up isn't automatically qualified for the Europa League anymore as it was before. Now the next club, placed outside the EL qualifying place, is qualified (which would be the 7th placed club)
    Would this rule have been in place already for the 2012/2013 season the HSV would have played in the Europa League in the following season because he was 7th in the table (yeah, really 7th....long ago :D ). But Stuttgart as loser of the Cup Final qualified instead (and they were only 12th in the table)

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    I don't know if you understand German. If yes, then here is a kicker.de Article who explains this:

    http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/...list-in-zukunft-nicht-mehr-international.html

    and here's the official DFB (German FA) Article for the Qualifying process:

    http://www.dfb.de/qualifikation-zum-europacup/
     
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    Dirk,
    Thank you, you and the links have confirmed my thoughts...
     

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