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Hi-Fi Corner - Vinyl, CD, Cassettes and the rest

Discussion in 'Music Venue' started by Habbinalan, Nov 1, 2016.

  1. Habbinalan

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    My good lady shares a few but not most of my interests and obsessions. Vinyl and following football teams that usually lose in obscure parts of the country are the two that most puzzle her. She just bought me this and I'm not sure if it's a "thought you'd find it interesting," or "take a look at yourself in the mirror," type present. I'll report back in due course. Meanwhile, has anyone else read any of Magnus Mills' previous novels?

    https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/apr/07/forensic-records-society-by-magnus-mills-review

    ".......The Forensic Records Society’s idyll of pint-drinking and beard-stroking is destroyed when a rival society establishes itself on Tuesdays in the same small back room. It calls itself the Confessional Records Society, and has fundamentally different values.

    For reasons of their own … they regarded records in a completely different light to us. They viewed them as little more than props and accessories, and saw no intrinsic value in the records themselves. Accordingly there existed a gulf between the two persuasions which could never be bridged.

    This leads to “bickering, desertion, subterfuge and rivalry”. It also leads to a story that could be read as a disguised retelling of the Russian revolution, or the Reformation, or the Sunni-Shia schism, or any great human falling out.......".
     

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    I'm sure she means 'you should find this interesting'. It's only music, a pastime of ours, so we don't have to take a look at ourselves ;)

    Anyways, just got myself Eno's Taking Tiger Mountain on vinyl. TBH, I only wanted the record for Third Uncle and a couple of other tracks, but can't say I'm too impressed. Thought the record would sound a lot better than the cd but I was wrong. Too bright and bass light to my ears.
     
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    En route to a cheap and enjoyable game of football yesterday (City continued the Great Escape with a 1 - 0 win over Dorchester), I picked up some old vinyl to fill out the weekend.

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    Forgive the photo. Prize find was Third Degree which doubles my Nine Below Zero collection. The Incredible String Band offers a flashback to 1966 and the two Live Johnny Winter Albums probably completes my Texas Albino Blues collection.

    Favourite JW track from my old stuff:



    Looking forward to:

     
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    I know what you mean. On my old systems, I used to occasionally turn up the bass and volume for gems like "Here Come The Warm Jets." I also used to try that with Sly & Robbie, Black Uhuru, etc. I even had an old mini-hifi in the kitchen with settings for "Rock," Classic," etc.

    These days, the "Tone Enhacer" knob on my Denon PMA - 707 sits dusty and ignored.

    Do folk adjust (mess with?) their settings these days for different styles of music or specific records?

     
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    I've been on antibiotics for some 8 days now and for some or other, and I struggle with even the simplest of things when I'm under the weather. The reason why Eno's record is somewhat lacking in bass is only due to each side having 26 mins of music crammed onto it and as everybody knows, long playing time means that the low end will suffer as a consequence. It's also the biggest reason why reissues are being spread out over two records nowadays.

    Re. amplifier settings, I don't like to mess around with the tone controls on any of my amps, and select 'source direct' or 'tone defeat' on the amp (bass and treble set to '0' in other words). Naturally, how our listening rooms are furnished hugely influences the sound that's coming out of the speakers, but in such cases I prefer playing around with speaker placement than turning up/down the tone controls on the amp. The only exception to this is when I'm listening to some live bootleg recordings, esp those soundboard tapes which more often than not are somewhat bass shy.
     
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    These posts inspired me to look at the buttons on my amp.

    I see bass and treble are stuck at 12 o'clock and are dusty as hell. I note a few unused buttons there - "Bass EQ", "Infra Defeat" (wtf?), "Low Level" and "Loudness Comp", and of course "Tape Monitor".

    I very occasionally push the mono switch on, but I find any difference in sound escapes my notice after a few seconds, so it tends to be switched back. I don't have that many mono records anyway.

    Talking of mono, there is an article on a jazz blog I frequent, which has considerably more replies than any articles relating to the music, which is a bit sad IMO.
     
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    Infra defeat? That's a new one, but not really that surprising as audio gear designers are always trying to grab our attention by making their products stand out from the rest. AFAIC, the only manufacturer claim that I fully believe in is Yamaha's 'Natural Sound' one, because Yammies are really clean sounding and don't colour the music in any way. Besides the Yamaha I've also got a Sansui and a Marantz, but while the latter is just perfect for rock music, I've discovered that it colours the music way too much in that it boosts the highs and lows. The Sansui is somewhere between the two.

    But I digress. So all three of us don't play around with settings which is a good thing Imo. But remember that every now and then it's a good idea to work all those switch selectors, and not just the ones we don't use, so that also includes the volume knob for example. Unless one would rather open up the amp and spray some kind of lubricant into those tiny potholes which is always a pain as one would've have to ideally wait some 48 hours before using the amp again.

    eightiesrobin - I've only got a few mono records so not really worth the bother, but those who have loads of mono records do not just select mono on their amps, as that's just a compromise. One would need a spare head shell with a dedicated mono cartridge in order to fully immerse yourself in glorious mono ;) I'm surprised you haven't got that many mono recordings since it was my understanding you do listen to loads of jazz?
     
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    You made me look Vanni - I counted about 60 mono jazz LPs, many more than I thought. I could probably quite easily get myself a mono set up, depends on the price though. A spare headshell costs about £60 used, but I couldn't tell you what a decent mono cartridge would cost.
     
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    The Yamaha and Sansui are old too, it's only the Marantz PM6004 which is newish (got it back in 2012/13 iirc, and I only got it because it was heavily discounted), but when the time comes for another amp I'll only look at the Yamahas. Problem is that I've listened to a couple of their recent amps and while I still think they're better for my needs than other amps, the truth is that they're not as clean sounding as their earlier efforts. IOW, I may well go for a refurbished 70's one once again.

    I think I get the idea of what that infra defeat feature does now after reading that link you put up, and I think it's especially beneficial when the turntable is too close to the amp or speakers. In fact I've got this little myself problem as my SR636 is a little too close to the amp for my liking but I just don't know where I'm going to move it to.
     
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    I dread to think what you would think of my placement Vanni! My turntable is about three inches away from the amp - hooray for Infra Defeat I say!
     

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