Hollywood announce war on Trump SAG Awards turns into a night-long protest

[Benito]

Let them in?

fascinating, did anyone from the media take the time to ask these actors how many refugees israel, a country built by The United States for refugees has taken in from the war next door?

 

[Look Out There Are Llamas]

It snows in Los Angeles?

 

[Carver]

Why was the Trump thread closed?

I'll just have to post this video on here instead, should explain this ban to the lefties on here from a non mainstream media:

 

[Vanni]

Everybody's missing the whole point. This is just a repeat of what has happened before. You know, back in the 1930's.....

Fuck racism and fuck right wing ideals.

 

[Renegade]

Why was the Trump thread closed?

I'll just have to post this video on here instead, should explain this ban to the lefties on here from a non mainstream media:

Just alternative right-wing media instead.

 

[Carver]

Just alternative right-wing media instead.

So what do you disagree with in the video?

 

[Ebeneezer Goode]

How about a compromise. Double the refugee numbers (back to what they were) but only if these millionaires are willing to pay for it.

 

[Carver]

Everybody's missing the whole point. This is just a repeat of what has happened before. You know, back in the 1930's.....

Fuck racism and fuck right wing ideals.

What so we're just supposed to let a very brutal savage dark age like ideology like Islam spread into our society?

Do you have any idea what goes on Islamic countries and what they believe in? It's all fine for us accepting ideologies that will peacefully live in our society and liking our values. However Islam does not agree with this and they will violently and mercilessly impose their beliefs on us and the rest of the world, yeah they're doing very much a repeat of what has happened before. You know, back in the 1930's.

What Trump is doing is protecting American people from these animals that will kill anyone who isn't Islamic because a book tells them to, unless they convert to it.

Sometimes when things get out of hand it can only take tough and unpopular measures to stop, not everything can be fixed by trying to be diplomatic all the time.

It's not being racist, it's manning up and having some common sense. No way do I want to be murdered by a maniac driving truck into a crowd at a festival or blown up by a nutter on a subway train.

 

[johnnytodd]

the thread was closed because i predicted the Trump victory

 

[Benito]

Jocelyn Towne warrants the Elin Krantz award.

"Elin Krantz (1983-2010) was a blonde-haired, blue eyed Swedish woman, who was killed by a 23 year old Ethiopian male, Ephrem Tadele Yohannes.

Elin Krantz supported colored immigration to Sweden.

On September 26, 2010 Ephrem Tadele Yohannes raped her, killed her, and then threw her body among rocks. Ephrem is born in Ethiopia. He lived in the United States for a time and committed numerous crimes. Then he married an Ethiopian woman and immigrated to Sweden. After the murder in June 2011, he was sentenced to 16 years imprisonment and lifetime banishment from Sweden

 

[JaseTheVillain]

What so we're just supposed to let a very brutal savage dark age like ideology like Judaism spread into our society?

Do you have any idea what goes on Jewish countries and what they believe in? It's all fine for us accepting ideologies that will peacefully live in our society and liking our values. However Judaism does not agree with this and they will violently and mercilessly impose their beliefs on us and the rest of the world.

What Hitler is doing is protecting German people from these animals that will kill anyone who isn't Jewish because a book tells them to, unless they convert to it.

Sometimes when things get out of hand it can only take tough and unpopular measures to stop, not everything can be fixed by trying to be diplomatic all the time.

It's not being racist, it's manning up and having some common sense. No way do I want to be murdered by a maniac driving truck into a crowd at a festival or blown up by a nutter on a subway train.

I 1930'sified your post for you.

Read it back and tell me how awful it sounds.

 

[Benito]

I 1930'sified your post for you.

Read it back and tell me how awful it sounds.

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks/attacks.aspx?Yr=2016

Have a read of that religion of peace you say ?

 

[JaseTheVillain]

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks/attacks.aspx?Yr=2016

Have a read of that religion of peace you say ?

Amazing that you can come up with me saying something when I clearly didn't. Well done.

For the record, Islam is the 2nd largest religion on the planet with over 1billion followers. Do you really think if they all wanted us dead there would be so few deaths due to Islamic terrorism?

The deaths that have happened are awful. I am not trivialising them, but this is not the answer.

 

[Ebeneezer Goode]

You don't need to be a "hurr durr all muslims r terrorists" **** in order to accept that the net effect of importing Islam into the West has been a negative one.

 

[sl1k]

You don't need to be a "hurr durr all muslims r terrorists" **** in order to accept that the net effect of importing Islam into the West has been a negative one.

And in turn, you influence the next generation of better educated and progressive Muslim thinkers.

Don't forget the golden age - is what I say to the western-centric.

One of the things that make Murrica a great country is how it was built on immigration and through 'the American dream' being available to all, gets people of any colour culture or class to subscribe to the fundamentals of their Constitution. No matter what else they identity themselves by, being an American is a huge part of their overall makeup.

 

[TheMinsterman]

You don't need to be a "hurr durr all muslims r terrorists" **** in order to accept that the net effect of importing Islam into the West has been a negative one.

This isn't a gotcha moment, but genuinely, what were the negative impacts of Muslim immigration prior to 9/11? I don't ever recall so much hate and vitriol prior to then, if it was it was racial in make up.

 

[Ebeneezer Goode]

And in turn, you influence the next generation of better educated and progressive Muslim thinkers.

I suspect a great many people do not see that as their obligation.

Don't forget the golden age - is what I say to the western-centric.

What about it? Religious institutions were always the source of repositories of knowledge in antiquity because scarcely anyone else besides the aristocracy had the luxury of devoting time to that sort of thing. The Churches were no different, but that doesn't mean that Christianity isn't backward.

One of the things that make Murrica a great country is how it was built on immigration and through 'the American dream' being available to all, gets people of any colour culture or class to subscribe to the fundamentals of their Constitution. No matter what else they identity themselves by, being an American is a huge part of their overall makeup.

Because at it's core the US is not a multicultural country, it's a melting pot, a civic nationalist country with some basic but very clear principles. Built on immigration is one way to put it I suppose, built on the methodical ethnic cleansing of the indigenous population would be the another.

 

[Ebeneezer Goode]

This isn't a gotcha moment, but genuinely, what were the negative impacts of Muslim immigration prior to 9/11? I don't ever recall so much hate and vitriol prior to then, if it was it was racial in make up.

Well whether there was hate or vitriol is neither here not there. The towers were also attacked by jihadis with a truck bomb in 1993 lest we forget. From a British perspective I'd say '88 when The Satanic Verses came out was when some of the cultural incompatibility started to become apparent in the UK. I suspect a lot of the antipathy in the US toward immigration from Muslim countries comes from what they see when they look at Europe.

 

[sl1k]

I suspect a great many people do not see that as their obligation.

Fair enough, but my point had nothing to do with 'obligation'. The word 'obligation' also has nothing to do with the importation of Muslims in to western society in the context of this discussion. I was merely pointing out that in an increasingly globalised world, it's not really difficult to appreciate that it's a good thing when your neighbours begin to leave behind practises virtues and perceptions that are quite clearly stuck in the past. If you can't, then that's your prerogative.

What about it? Religious institutions were always the source of repositories of knowledge in antiquity because scarcely anyone else besides the aristocracy had the luxury of devoting time to that sort of thing. The Churches were no different, but that doesn't mean that Christianity isn't backward.

I was coming more from a civilisation angle.

Because at it's core the US is not a multicultural country, it's a melting pot, a civic nationalist country with some basic but very clear principles. Built on immigration is one way to put it I suppose, built on the methodical ethnic cleansing of the indigenous population would be the another.

I expect you did understand the point of me referencing that as an example. Kewl.

 

[Carver]

I 1930'sified your post for you.

Read it back and tell me how awful it sounds.

So if we criticise any cultures then that makes us racist and sound like Hitler? Even when a culture like Islam is barbaric and Nazi like itself?

Amazing that you can come up with me saying something when I clearly didn't. Well done.

For the record, Islam is the 2nd largest religion on the planet with over 1billion followers. Do you really think if they all wanted us dead there would be so few deaths due to Islamic terrorism?

The deaths that have happened are awful. I am not trivialising them, but this is not the answer.

Islamic countries impose this thing called Sharia Law, you ever heard of it? I think you should look it up!

If people of Islam got into power then they would impose Sharia Law over here and that would be very very bad news for everyone.

You say that stopping them from coming over here isn't the answer, so what is the answer?

And in turn, you influence the next generation of better educated and progressive Muslim thinkers.

Don't forget the golden age - is what I say to the western-centric.

One of the things that make Murrica a great country is how it was built on immigration and through 'the American dream' being available to all, gets people of any colour culture or class to subscribe to the fundamentals of their Constitution. No matter what else they identity themselves by, being an American is a huge part of their overall makeup.

So does that mean they must accept evil cultures as well?

 

[sl1k]

Carver, culture and religious philosophy are two very different things my boy. The problem arises when people can't distinguish between the two. And it occurs on both sides.

 

[Carver]

This isn't a gotcha moment, but genuinely, what were the negative impacts of Muslim immigration prior to 9/11? I don't ever recall so much hate and vitriol prior to then, if it was it was racial in make up.

We didn't have the internet back then that's why! So we didn't really know much of anything going on outside of our country apart from what was on the biased half hour news. Plus we weren't as multi-cultural with Islam.

 

[Carver]

Carver, culture and religious philosophy are two very different things my boy. The problem arises when people can't distinguish between the two. And it occurs on both sides.

How do you mean?

 

[silkyman]

Everybody's missing the whole point. This is just a repeat of what has happened before. You know, back in the 1930's.....

Fuck racism and fuck right wing ideals.

So on Holocaust Memorial Day, when we're reminded, amongst many other things, that in 1939 the U.S. turned away Jewish refugees on the MS St Louis who were sent back to die in concentration camps and others who were later refused visas from afar (Including Anne Frank and her family) because of an 'America First' rhetoric and were also slaughtered, The President decided to turn away refugees from a certain religious group and deny their visas from afar based on America First rhetoric...

And our fucking Prime Minister held his fucking hand afterwards.

 

[sl1k]

If he were to refine the 'temporary ban/extra checks on Muslims from certain countries' I can personally understand the position.

When people that already shout/rant on about Trump - cos of who he is and his politics - get behind the "oh you're anti-muslim!" lyric, I get a little annoyed to be honest. Cos the Muslim perspective loses a little bit of legitimacy in the eyes of those from the other end of the political spectrum through no fault of our own.

That's why the left-right beef pisses me off sometimes. Issues get lost in translation.

 

[Ebeneezer Goode]

One of the most objectionable things about it is the countries he's actually picked. They don't seem to have much to do with the supposed principle behind it. Iran but not Pakistan and Saudia Arabia makes no sense.

 

[Carver]

So on Holocaust Memorial Day, when we're reminded, amongst many other things, that in 1939 the U.S. turned away Jewish refugees on the MS St Louis who were sent back to die in concentration camps and others who were later refused visas from afar (Including Anne Frank and her family) because of an 'America First' rhetoric and were also slaughtered, The President decided to turn away refugees from a certain religious group and deny their visas from afar based on America First rhetoric...

And our fucking Prime Minister held his fucking hand afterwards.

I've never heard that one before, if what you're telling me is true then that is terrible what the Americans did back then especially as Jewish people are genuinely peaceful people and no threat to anyone, but this is now and you must see that this is a completely different case with Islam as it is not a peaceful religion and all you have to do is look at what is happening in places like Germany and Sweden to see what it brings, German and Swedish women getting raped and brutally murdered for a start.

Don't get me wrong I'm all for taking in women and young child refugees as long as they pose no threats, I just can't trust the men though.

 

[Carver]

One of the most objectionable things about it is the countries he's actually picked. They don't seem to have much to do with the supposed principle behind it. Iran but not Pakistan and Saudia Arabia makes no sense.

I found that quite strange too as they are the countries where most terrorists come from, maybe he's got another plan for them like the nuclear button!

Nah but he did say they were going to use extreme vetting to people coming from places like Pakistan and Saudi Arabia..

 

[johnnytodd]

I think we should put a similar ban on these countries to show support of our biggest ally.

 

[Martino Quackavelli]

Jocelyn Towne warrants the Elin Krantz award.

"Elin Krantz (1983-2010) was a blonde-haired, blue eyed Swedish woman, who was killed by a 23 year old Ethiopian male, Ephrem Tadele Yohannes.

Elin Krantz supported colored immigration to Sweden.

On September 26, 2010 Ephrem Tadele Yohannes raped her, killed her, and then threw her body among rocks. Ephrem is born in Ethiopia. He lived in the United States for a time and committed numerous crimes. Then he married an Ethiopian woman and immigrated to Sweden. After the murder in June 2011, he was sentenced to 16 years imprisonment and lifetime banishment from Sweden

I tried finding info on this online, but all the reputable sounding sites were blocked as intolerant or hate sites (I'm at work), and that's not even getting into page one results from apolitical, trustworthy entities like 'white news now', or 'stormfront'. Not saying it's entirely fabricated, but there are more Christians in Ethiopia than Muslims so I'm not entirely sure what point they're trying to prove if it is indeed fake news. I imagine it's probably more 'black people are awful savages' than it is 'immigration bad'. Link me to a trustworthy news site though, bud. I have no problem being wrong here.