Real League Table Thread (also kit colour discussion, blame glasshalffullpools)

[shoddycollins]

As promised, no funny names... the colours remain.

38 - Carlisle - Plymouth
37 -
36 - Doncaster*
35 -
34 -
33 -
32 -
31 - Portsmouth - Luton
30 -
29 -
28 - Wycombe
27 - Blackpool - Barnet
26 - Grimsby - Crewe
25 - Cambridge - Mansfield - Yeovil*
24 - Stevenage**
23 - Colchester - Crawley* - Morecambe
22 - Hartlepool - Notts County
21 - Accrington
20 - Exeter
19 -
18 - Leyton Orient - Cheltenham
17 - Newport*

So, in terms of spread, not much has changed in the last two games. It did run from 16-38 and now it runs from 17-38. The 38 remaining thanks to Plymouth continuing to lose, though they are joined there by Carlisle. Exeter manage to lift themselves off the bottom but Newport lose two in a row and remain stuck on 17.

The peloton has widened again from nine points to eleven, and there is even a little gap that appears to cut the bottom three adrift, but don't be fooled. My assessment is that there still isn't much between most of the teams in it, and it remains to be seen whether the likes of Wycombe and potentially Barnet can do what teams before them have failed to do and make a firm claim for the play-off places (my money would be on Grimsby and Blackpool both making the play-offs along with two of the current top five, but who can say?). Taken as a unit the peloton has taken around 11 points from the last 27 (when I started this thread 9 games ago) with only small variations to form within and constant fluctuations to who is on form and who isn't.

Luton and Pompey are finding themselves now closer to the peloton and further from the top three but again this is something that has gone back and forth for a while now, sometimes they're closer to the top three, sometimes closer to the peloton, sometimes they switch places, but Luton and Pompey have been 4th and 5th for a good while now. They have taken 14 points from the last 27

Carlisle and Doncaster have reined Plymouth in, taking on average, 22 from the last 27 while Plymouth have taken 16 (though not evenly spread).

Difficult to pick anyone to watch at the moment as any team who are doing well could turn out not to do well, but I think Cambridge and Stevenage may have a dalliance with the play-offs in the coming month, whether they remain there is anyone's guess, but being up there when the transfer window opens could be useful, especially as Cambridge allegedly have money to spend. Mansfield aren't doing too badly and have promotion specialist Evans at the helm now, so perhaps the last two play-off spots (assuming the top five remain as is) will be contested between Grimsby, Blackpool, Cambridge and Mansfield. People talk about teams coming from out of nowhere to challenge for the play-offs as Wimbledon did last season, but looking at the table as it is, it's hard to define any team as being in 'nowhere' for them to come out of it... maybe Colchester.

 

[Glasshalffullpools]

Bottom of the blues! ......typical !

 

[shoddycollins]

Bottom of the blues! ......typical !

There's so few of us in this division.

 

[Glasshalffullpools]

It's a long time since 3 oranges have been in the same league ....why doesn't anyone play in purple ?

 

[shoddycollins]

It's a long time since 3 oranges have been in the same league ....why doesn't anyone play in purple ?

There's not much purple on home kits in football really, the only ones i can think of are the trim on Real Madrid's kit, Fiorentina and Harchester United... oh and Orlando City and I only know that cos I have a friend there.

 

[AdamStag]

There's not much purple on home kits in football really, the only ones i can think of are the trim on Real Madrid's kit, Fiorentina and Harchester United... oh and Orlando City and I only know that cos I have a friend there.

Real Madrid had an away shirt, which i've got which is purple - i quite like it. (though mine does have a hole in it)

 

[shoddycollins]

Real Madrid had an away shirt, which i've got which is purple - i quite like it. (though mine does have a hole in it)

So do Plymouth, I'm led to understand it's not too uncommon as an away shirt colour.

 

[Soup Ladle]

A Real shirt? Got to be Barca out of the two if we're going glory hunting.

 

[AdamStag]

A Real shirt? Got to be Barca out of the two if we're going glory hunting.

dont give a toss between either of them, just happened to like the shirt as it was a little different

 

[Vanni]

Nah, only one side for me in La Liga. The mighty Espanyol.

 

[shoddycollins]

On the topic of kits, is everyone else wearing their away kits consistently in away games?

We seem to have stopped doing this. We seem to have gone back to the old fashioned tactic of always wearing blue unless we're away to a team who wear blue, and only then will we change to red. We have blue shorts too for those games against teams who have white shorts. For some reason we seem to have adopted this attitude in the first season for ages where we've had a third-kit, I'm not sure if we've ever worn the third kit (which is white with red pinstripes and shorts).

 

[Glasshalffullpools]

I've always liked teams who keep the same colours in thier change kit ...Everton and West Ham spring to mind ..... I'd imagine sales of kit 2 and 3 are down , due to the fact you can't really attach yourself to a design if it's A) like loads of others and 2) likely to be completely different next year .... why not just push your home kit .....for the record , I've always liked Carlisle when you have the white stripe in the middle

 

[shoddycollins]

Not a huge amount to add since most teams haven't played but games in hand have been sorted out while other teams have been in cup action so I thought I'd update since for the first time since I started this, all teams are on the same number of games.

39 - Doncaster
38 - Carlisle - Plymouth
37 -
36 -
35 -
34 -
33 -
32 -
31 - Portsmouth - Luton
30 -
29 -
28 - Yeovil - Wycombe
27 - Blackpool - Stevenage - Barnet
26 - Grimsby - Crewe
25 - Cambridge - Mansfield
24 -
23 - Colchester - Crawley - Morecambe
22 - Hartlepool - Notts County
21 - Accrington
20 - Exeter
19 -
18 - Leyton Orient - Cheltenham
17 - Newport

Doncaster won, and leapfrog Plymouth and Carlisle to go top; Yeovil recorded a good win over Crawley to move to the head of the peloton; Stevenage seem to be moving in the right direction too after picking up three points from their two games in hand, while Newport lost again and while not adrift as they were, the momentum seems to have gone out of their revival. So it now looks tighter at the top, but outside the automatic promotion places, the general shape of the table is unchanged.

 

[thewwfc]

On the topic of kits, is everyone else wearing their away kits consistently in away games?

We seem to have stopped doing this. We seem to have gone back to the old fashioned tactic of always wearing blue unless we're away to a team who wear blue, and only then will we change to red. We have blue shorts too for those games against teams who have white shorts. For some reason we seem to have adopted this attitude in the first season for ages where we've had a third-kit, I'm not sure if we've ever worn the third kit (which is white with red pinstripes and shorts).

I think we are supposed to wear the quartered shirt wherever possible unless the opposition have a blue strip - we even had a "club charter" which put that in writing.

I don't get cut up about it one way or the other but I guess the quarters are at least a little more unique as kits go, the Gas aside.

 

[shoddycollins]

I think we are supposed to wear the quartered shirt wherever possible unless the opposition have a blue strip - we even had a "club charter" which put that in writing.

I don't get cut up about it one way or the other but I guess the quarters are at least a little more unique as kits go, the Gas aside.

You been doing that for long, or just this year? Until this year we seemed to be doing what most clubs were doing and always wearing our away kit away from home, in order to boost sales. Just seems this year the we now always wear our home kit unless we're unable to.

 

[Vanni]

Wearing the away kit for all the away games is a bit silly imo. Clubs always used to wear their home strip (if the colours didn't clash obviously) in the good not-so-old days.

 

[Glasshalffullpools]

Wearing the away kit for all the away games is a bit silly imo. Clubs always used to wear their home strip (if the colours didn't clash obviously) in the good not-so-old days.

I could not agree more .....its one of my pet hates , that and the fact the change kit changed every year ..... at least Arsenal always play in Yellow away , we've had every colour over the last 10 years or so

 

[thewwfc]

You been doing that for long, or just this year? Until this year we seemed to be doing what most clubs were doing and always wearing our away kit away from home, in order to boost sales. Just seems this year the we now always wear our home kit unless we're unable to.

Oh no, it's been like that for (guessing) at least 6 years or so. The club made the mistake of listening to a very small but vocal minority on our message board who would scream blue (quartered) murder if we ever deviated from the policy.

I don't think it's a bad thing (wearing the first choice kit whenever you can) but would not lose a nanosecond's sleep if we wore the 2nd kit.

 

[mowgli]

Oh no, it's been like that for (guessing) at least 6 years or so. The club made the mistake of listening to a very small but vocal minority on our message board who would scream blue (quartered) murder if we ever deviated from the policy.

I don't think it's a bad thing (wearing the first choice kit whenever you can) but would not lose a nanosecond's sleep if we wore the 2nd kit.

At least we dumped the awful away kit we had for the last 2 seasons and this years white kit is decent tbf.

 

[dedwardp]

On the topic of kits, is everyone else wearing their away kits consistently in away games?

We seem to have stopped doing this. We seem to have gone back to the old fashioned tactic of always wearing blue unless we're away to a team who wear blue, and only then will we change to red. We have blue shorts too for those games against teams who have white shorts. For some reason we seem to have adopted this attitude in the first season for ages where we've had a third-kit, I'm not sure if we've ever worn the third kit (which is white with red pinstripes and shorts).

We wore blue and white stripes away at Plymouth at the end of October and I reckon that was the first time we'd worn the stripes away from home since we won 7-1 at Norwich in August 2009. Much prefer it, but odd that it just happened as a one off.

 

[shoddycollins]

We wore blue and white stripes away at Plymouth at the end of October and I reckon that was the first time we'd worn the stripes away from home since we won 7-1 at Norwich in August 2009. Much prefer it, but odd that it just happened as a one off.

What's your away kit? Sometimes referees randomly decide that your kit clashes even when no sane person could think so. Last season we had to hurriedly have our red training top made up and registered as a third kit because some referee decided that our black away kit clashed with Wycombe's home kit. It looked ridiculous as our training tops had a little Virgin Trains logo on the right breast, but since we were making it into a proper kit we had to put a big logo on the front of the kit so ended up taking to the pitch in a strip with two Virgin Trains logos on, they must have been delighted.

A few seasons ago too, we travelled down to Bury intending to wear our traditional blue home kit, as our away kit was white that year, only for the referee to decide it clashed with Bury's home kit and we had to wear Bury's away kit. Beat them too, which was amusing to see. You get hit with a fine if that happens though, not to mention drawing the ire of your kit sponsor, which was why we were so desperate to register a third kit for Wycombe last year.

 

[Habbinalan]

What's your away kit? Sometimes referees randomly decide that your kit clashes even when no sane person could think so. Last season we had to hurriedly have our red training top made up and registered as a third kit because some referee decided that our black away kit clashed with Wycombe's home kit. It looked ridiculous as our training tops had a little Virgin Trains logo on the right breast, but since we were making it into a proper kit we had to put a big logo on the front of the kit so ended up taking to the pitch in a strip with two Virgin Trains logos on, they must have been delighted.

A few seasons ago too, we travelled down to Bury intending to wear our traditional blue home kit, as our away kit was white that year, only for the referee to decide it clashed with Bury's home kit and we had to wear Bury's away kit. Beat them too, which was amusing to see. You get hit with a fine if that happens though, not to mention drawing the ire of your kit sponsor, which was why we were so desperate to register a third kit for Wycombe last year.

We have had home colours kits made up with away sponsors logo in the past, to enable black and amber for away matches. Our 3 kits enable some weird and distasteful combinations, the worst being amber shirts with white (or at one stage even sky blue) shorts instead of the traditional black or amber. Is there any colour other than black (being pedantic, an absence of "colour") that goes with amber?

The distaste was eased by "amber and white" being the Wembley winning kit.

 

[shoddycollins]

We have had home colours kits made up with away sponsors logo in the past, to enable black and amber for away matches. Our 3 kits enable some weird and distasteful combinations, the worst being amber shirts with white (or at one stage even sky blue) shorts instead of the traditional black or amber. Is there any colour other than black (being pedantic, an absence of "colour") that goes with amber?

The distaste was eased by "amber and white" being the Wembley winning kit.

I don't know, I have a strange liking for that amber/white combo. I'll admit it isn't as natural a pairing as black... or dark blue would be, and I think Australian rugby have a very amberish shade of yellow which goes nicely with the dark green.

Slightly off topic, but this is a great action shot either of the last player joining a pile-on... or of the second-from-top player releasing an intensely powerful fart.

 

[shoddycollins]

Another round of matches, and once again, thanks to some torrential rain in Wales, the asterisks are back

41 - Plymouth
40-
39 - Carlisle - Doncaster
38 -
37 -
36 -
35 -
34 - Portsmouth
33 -
32 - Luton
31 - Wycombe
30 - Blackpool - Barnet
29 -
28 - Cambridge -Yeovil
27 - Stevenage
26 - Grimsby - Mansfield - Crewe - Crawley
25 -
24 - Colchester
23 - Exeter - Morecambe*
22 - Hartlepool - Notts County
21 - Leyton Orient - Accrington
20 -
19 -
18 - Cheltenham
17 - Newport*

There is a still a significant gap between the top-three and the rest, though a draw and defeat for Carlisle and Donny respectively has allowed Pompey to close it a bit with a win, while Plymouth retook the lead meaning that each one of the top three have led the table between the last full round of matches and this weekend.

It's been a good week for those looking to make a firm claim on the promotion race, with wins for Wycombe, Blackpool and Barnet coupled with Luton drawing and other teams in and around that top end of the peloton losing, resulting in the beginnings of a gap between promotion chasers - and mid-table. It also allows Cambridge to continue their march from relegation fears to promotion hopes.

The rest of the peloton appears to be made up of teams on inconsistent, for example Colchester and Exeter having a few wins after a poor run, while the opposite is the case for Grimsby and Crewe. Exceptions being Hartlepool and Notts, both of whom are on catastrophic form.

Wins for Orient and Exeter mean a gap has one again opened up a bit at the bottom and both teams down there are on pretty poor form (Newport were losing at half time when their game was abandoned)

 

[County1]

Another round of matches, and once again, thanks to some torrential rain in Wales, the asterisks are back

41 - Plymouth
40-
39 - Carlisle - Doncaster
38 -
37 -
36 -
35 -
34 - Portsmouth
33 -
32 - Luton
31 - Wycombe
30 - Blackpool - Barnet
29 -
28 - Cambridge -Yeovil
27 - Stevenage
26 - Grimsby - Mansfield - Crewe - Crawley
25 -
24 - Colchester
23 - Exeter - Morecambe*
22 - Hartlepool - Notts County
21 - Leyton Orient - Accrington
20 -
19 -
18 - Cheltenham
17 - Newport*

There is a still a significant gap between the top-three and the rest, though a draw and defeat for Carlisle and Donny respectively has allowed Pompey to close it a bit with a win, while Plymouth retook the lead meaning that each one of the top three have led the table between the last full round of matches and this weekend.

It's been a good week for those looking to make a firm claim on the promotion race, with wins for Wycombe, Blackpool and Barnet coupled with Luton drawing and other teams in and around that top end of the peloton losing, resulting in the beginnings of a gap between promotion chasers - and mid-table. It also allows Cambridge to continue their march from relegation fears to promotion hopes.

The rest of the peloton appears to be made up of teams on inconsistent, for example Colchester and Exeter having a few wins after a poor run, while the opposite is the case for Grimsby and Crewe. Exceptions being Hartlepool and Notts, both of whom are on catastrophic form.

Wins for Orient and Exeter mean a gap has one again opened up a bit at the bottom and both teams down there are on pretty poor form (Newport were losing at half time when their game was abandoned)

 

[County1]

We were actually winning 1-0 when the game was abandoned. A wonder goal by Tom Owen Evans that of course now won't count.

 

[Glasshalffullpools]

Why am I getting blamed for stuff ? Shoddy coloured in the names , I merely said no one wears purple ....the rest is down to yooos lot !

 

[shoddycollins]

Why am I getting blamed for stuff ? Shoddy coloured in the names , I merely said no one wears purple ....the rest is down to yooos lot !

Yeah but I've been doing that since the start of the thread and nobody was actually discussing kit colours until you piped up.

 

[Glasshalffullpools]

Technically it was a non kit colour ...or is that non colour kit ? .....if I hadn't , we would not be aware of the Wycombe quater charter ..... I've done my good deed for the year

 

[BeesKnees]

It's a long time since 3 oranges have been in the same league ....why doesn't anyone play in purple ?

We're not playing in orange this year. Can I request Barnet ?