Saudi Arabia funds Islamic extremism in UK.

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I'm absolutely sickened by this.

It turns out that the true root cause of our terrorist problem here in the UK is countries like Saudi Arabia and Qatar funding the teachings of extremism in UK mosques.

However our government has swept this under the carpet as Tory officials receive personal gifts from the Saudis and they believe that selling weapons to Saudi Arabia in exchange for billions of pounds for our country is worth it, even when it means having a serious growing extremism problem for us that results in innocent UK civilians being murdered which includes children too.

Here are a couple of links below explaining it:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ublish-conservatives-government-a7766381.html

https://theintercept.com/2017/06/04/tory-uk-saudi-arabia-gifts-money/

https://www.rt.com/uk/390850-corbyn-saudi-extremists-funding/

THEY must END this funding immediately and STOP getting into bed with Saudi Arabia and making them appear as if they are our friends when they are clearly not. They are fucking monsters that's who they are.
 
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It's definitely a murky business us selling arms to the Saudis (worth a hell of a lot of money), whilst the leap from Saudi Arabia's current Wahhabist teachings to the doctrine of IS/daesh is rather a small one.

It's bloody complicated because the Saudi's have positioned themselves over decades to be allies for the US and other Western administrations for their interests in the area.
 

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However our government has swept this under the carpet as Tory officials receive personal gifs from the Saudis
What....a Saudi gif like this?
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It's definitely a murky business us selling arms to the Saudis (worth a hell of a lot of money), whilst the leap from Saudi Arabia's current Wahhabist teachings to the doctrine of IS/daesh is rather a small one.

It's bloody complicated because the Saudi's have positioned themselves over decades to be allies for the US and other Western administrations for their interests in the area.

Apparently Saudi Arabia funded the 9/11 terrorists too, yet because they are our rich allies with plenty of oil to sell us, no one from our government or the US government ever bothers to call them out for who they really are and what they have done.

If they were not so rich and had nothing to offer us then our government and mainstream media would of put them in the same category as countries like North Korea, but no Saudi Arabia bribe us and get us to turn a blind eye on their terrible human rights abuses and funding of terrorists.

So instead we blame each other and argue amongst ourselves when it's obvious that Saudi Arabia are the ones creating this extremist problem.

Saudi Arabia is the head of the snake and it needs cut off.
 
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Apparently Saudi Arabia funded the 9/11 terrorists too
The CIA-FBI investigation found no evidence of this. In fact, Saudi intelligence provided information to the US before the attack. The involvement of Saudi citizens in the attack do not constitute evidence. It's a bit like saying Britain funded anti-American terrorists because Richard Reid was British.

...yet because they are our rich allies with plenty of oil to sell us, no one from our government or the US government ever bothers to call them out for who they really are and what they have done.

Who is "us"? While the USA imports around $20 billion of oil, we don't import much at all. It mainly goes to China, other Asian countries and Germany.

If they were not so rich and had nothing to offer us then our government and mainstream media would of put them in the same category as countries like North Korea, but no Saudi Arabia bribe us and get us to turn a blind eye on their terrible human rights abuses and funding of terrorists.
This doesn't really hold water. We turn a blind eye to human rights abuses across most of the world, to be fair. Saudi Arabia is nothing special. However, traditionally, right-of-centre governments in Europe have tended to be better at ignoring those abuses and selling shedloads of nasty 'defence' equipment than liberal ones.

So instead we blame each other and argue amongst ourselves when it's obvious that Saudi Arabia are the ones creating this extremist problem.
Blaming each other? Huh? Who? Saudi Arabia is playing a role that it difficult to define. I don't totally (for once) disagree with what you are saying but it's all extremely simplistic and vague. Not every country that you don't like is necessary evil or supporting terrorism.
It's a bit like Trump's view of solutions. All big-ass talk until he's in power then it's like "Hey, let's sell $110 billion of military equipment to the Saudis". Yes, Donald, that fits well with all your earlier rhetoric.

Saudi Arabia is the head of the snake and it needs cut off.
Ummm. How do you "cut off the head" of a sovereign nation? Again, vacuuous Trump-speak works well for getting Likes from Johnnytodd but how about putting it into practice?
 

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Blaming each other? Huh? Who? Saudi Arabia is playing a role that it difficult to define. I don't totally (for once) disagree with what you are saying but it's all extremely simplistic and vague. Not every country that you don't like is necessary evil or supporting terrorism.
It's a bit like Trump's view of solutions. All big-ass talk until he's in power then it's like "Hey, let's sell $110 billion of military equipment to the Saudis". Yes, Donald, that fits well with all your earlier rhetoric.

Ok here's the fact, Saudi Arabia funds extremism in our country and our government has turned a blind eye on it even after an investigation was done.

So why is there barely any hate for the Saudi governemt on the news and on social media? Why is this not the main topic of discussion right now?

If Saudi Arabia did not fund these mosques to teach extremism then we would not have so many extremists in the UK, maybe none, so the public and the media must be pushing the government to stop this funding from the Saudis right now.

Do you agree?
 

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Ok here's the fact, Saudi Arabia funds extremism in our country and our government has turned a blind eye on it even after an investigation was done.
Best not to use the word 'fact' until it is, although I sympathise with the sentiment and I am sure many others will too.
The report looks set to be covered up, which is shameful. I suspect that the report shows Saudi money > Wahabbist mosques > extremists > terrorism. It's not a guaranteed link, but it is fairly concrete and I think most people in Britain would accept it as evidence.

So why is there barely any hate for the Saudi governemt on the news and on social media? Why is this not the main topic of discussion right now?
Because so many people simply shriek "Islam! Islam! They're all going to kill us!". Including you.

If Saudi Arabia did not fund these mosques to teach extremism then we would not have so many extremists in the UK, maybe none, so the public and the media must be pushing the government to stop this funding from the Saudis right now.
Do you agree?

I believe (agree) that we should see the report and that we should know what direct and indirect linkages have been made.I think this is where you will see direct action in the months to come.
 
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Best not to use the word 'fact' until it is, although I sympathise with the sentiment and I am sure many others will too.
The report looks set to be covered up, which is shameful. I suspect that the report shows Saudi money > Wahabbist mosques > extremists > terrorism. It's not a guaranteed link, but it is fairly concrete and I think most people in Britain would accept it as evidence.

Because so many people simply shriek "Islam! Islam! They're all going to kill us!". Including you.

I believe (agree) that we should see the report and that we should know what direct and indirect linkages have been made.I think this is where you will see direct action in the months to come.

I was wrong to put all Muslims in the same bracket and I see that now, so I now just hate the Wahabbsim version that teaches extremism.

As for Saudi Arabia they need to be exposed and if our government doesn't release this report and stop their funding to terrorists, then we should vote for a government that will.
 

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I was wrong to put all Muslims in the same bracket and I see that now, so I now just hate the Wahabbsim version that teaches extremism.
Again, not all Salafists are terrorists. Half of all Emiratis and Qataris are Salafists but only about a fifth of Saudis. They don't necessarily preach extremism but on a scale you would probably see them as like the fundamentalist fire-and-brimstone puritanical preachers of any faith.

As for Saudi Arabia they need to be exposed and if our government doesn't release this report and stop their funding to terrorists, then we should vote for a government that will.
You can on Thursday. Ask which political party demanded the review on terrorist finance. Not going to say who but it rhymes with diberallemocrats. But would they do anything with the report either?
 

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Again, not all Salafists are terrorists. Half of all Emiratis and Qataris are Salafists but only about a fifth of Saudis. They don't necessarily preach extremism but on a scale you would probably see them as like the fundamentalist fire-and-brimstone puritanical preachers of any faith.


You can on Thursday. Ask which political party demanded the review on terrorist finance. Not going to say who but it rhymes with diberallemocrats. But would they do anything with the report either?

So Salafists are pretty much the baddy Muslims then.
 

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Some great excuses for the sick religion that is Islam.

Saudi Arabia is the true problem, as long as our government keeps kneeling down to them and taking their bribes then we will never get rid of this extremist problem, well, not democratically anyway.
 

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So Salafists are pretty much the baddy Muslims then.
Well they are the conservative, Puritanical types. If your ability to assess situations is limited to a simple switch....1 or a 0, Yes or No, Good or Bad...then I guess that's how you will see it.
 

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Carver, did you just discover the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia earlier today? I'm kind of perplexed as to why this has only become a talking point now (in the British mainstream media anyway)...that said, I'm glad that the roots of Wahhabism are finally being discussed by the British public. Maybe this will lead to some criticism of Trump who is seen by many to be the only person talking about the threat of terrorism in the "right" way. Surely these people will be exposed to their cognitive dissonance - supporting a guy who decries radical Islam, yet deals in billions of dollars to the nation with the most influence in the region supporting the ideology.
 
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Well they are the conservative, Puritanical types. If your ability to assess situations is limited to a simple switch....1 or a 0, Yes or No, Good or Bad...then I guess that's how you will see it.

I like simplicity. :)
 

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I thought this was common knowledge, or was it just a crazed conspiracy theory for a while?
 

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