BBC wages..

[Super_horns]

The Beeb have been forced to make public the fees they pay their top presenters/celebs etc.

What do you think?

Paid too much for too little considering its you the tax payer that funds their wages or do you just accept it?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-40653383

 

[markwwfc1992]

I feel Linekar's earnings are too high. People watch Match of the Day for the highlights, not for his 'expert opinion'. You could drag any random person off the street for their analysis on a match. Just seems a waste to me, but then again you pay huge sums because he is a household name.

 

[Renegade]

Capitalism innit, you can level the same argument at pretty much any highly paid field and the demand for the best workers in such a field. Lineker is the best sports presenter on television, a lot of people watch the sport he presents, he is going to earn a huge wage at the BBC or go elsewhere and earn the same (or greater) wage. If someone else presented, quality would suffer and figures would probably drop. The BBC obviously thinks he's worth it relative to Mark Chapman presenting for half a million or something.

 

[Martino Quackavelli]

Meh, who cares.

 

[GodsGift]

Capitalism innit, you can level the same argument at pretty much any highly paid field and the demand for the best workers in such a field. Lineker is the best sports presenter on television, a lot of people watch the sport he presents, he is going to earn a huge wage at the BBC or go elsewhere and earn the same (or greater) wage. If someone else presented, quality would suffer and figures would probably drop. The BBC obviously thinks he's worth it relative to Mark Chapman presenting for half a million or something.

£200,000, which seems a bit low. He's on everything.

 

[JimJams]

Capitalism innit, you can level the same argument at pretty much any highly paid field and the demand for the best workers in such a field. Lineker is the best sports presenter on television, a lot of people watch the sport he presents, he is going to earn a huge wage at the BBC or go elsewhere and earn the same (or greater) wage. If someone else presented, quality would suffer and figures would probably drop. The BBC obviously thinks he's worth it relative to Mark Chapman presenting for half a million or something.

I was gonna post a Des Lynam picture but saw a little piece by the man himself in the Telegraph from 2011 when Keys and Gray got the boot.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...-wont-be-missed-by-viewers-of-Sky-Sports.html
It supports Marks POV so I suggest you ignore it Rene lest we go toe to toe in glorious battle of the ancient rag wars a sunder. Something something, jibber jabber.

 

[spireite]

Wow, headlines are thin on the ground today.

 

[Renegade]

I was gonna post a Des Lynam picture but saw a little piece by the man himself in the Telegraph from 2011 when Keys and Gray got the boot.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...-wont-be-missed-by-viewers-of-Sky-Sports.html
It supports Marks POV so I suggest you ignore it Rene lest we go toe to toe in glorious battle of the ancient rag wars a sunder. Something something, jibber jabber.

Des is just being humble, he is worth 10 Mark Chapmans and 1000 Adrian Chileses.

 

[.V.]

I couldn't give a toss.

 

[Abertawe]

Well you should. It's one massive con. Jug ears can fuck off with the saintly shit he spouts. I'd love to stamp on his hands.

 

[Martino Quackavelli]

If the Beeb was absolute trash maybe we could get all up in arms over it. But it ain't, the BBC is absolute quality and the envy of many a country.

 

[spireite]

If the Beeb was absolute trash maybe we could get all up in arms over it. But it ain't, the BBC is absolute quality and the envy of many a country.

the nature shows tho! worth it alone

 

[Abertawe]

If the Beeb was absolute trash maybe we could get all up in arms over it. But it ain't, the BBC is absolute quality and the envy of many a country.

Pointless, Attenborough, BBC 4, sat kitchen. What else?

 

[Martino Quackavelli]

Luther, Night Manager, Poldark, Line of Duty, Sherlock, Dr Who

 

[Abertawe]

Luther, Night Manager, Poldark, Line of Duty, Sherlock, Dr Who

All shit.

 

[Ebeneezer Goode]

I don't know that you can make a very good argument for why everyone who wants to own and use a TV in the UK should pay to fund the BBC.

 

[Abertawe]

I've never paid for a TV license and never will.

 

[Martino Quackavelli]

All shit.

That's like, your opinion, man. Fact is those shows are either adored by foreign audiences (Sherlock, Dr Who), domestically very successful (Poldark and Line of Duty) or critically acclaimed (Luther, The Night Manager). Those three matter to the Beeb, the opinion of a universally-panned, mediocre poster from a failing football forum does not.

 

[Abertawe]

That's like, your opinion, man. Fact is those shows are either adored by foreign audiences (Sherlock, Dr Who), domestically very successful (Poldark and Line of Duty) or critically acclaimed (Luther, The Night Manager). Those three matter to the Beeb, the opinion of a universally-panned, mediocre poster from a failing football forum does not.

So do license payers receive dividends when they make a profit selling content licences abroad then? Anyways a handful of shows does not constitute "absolute quality' in my book.

As for the universally panned jibe I think you've got me mixed up mate. I called Brexit, Trump & DUP. I'm essentially the best political commentator in the world. I would imagine if they were aware of my exploits they'd have me on newsnight with a very generous appearance fee.

 

[Martino Quackavelli]

So do license payers receive dividends when they make a profit selling content licences abroad then? Anyways a handful of shows does not constitute "absolute quality' in my book.

As for the universally panned jibe I think you've got me mixed up mate. I called Brexit, Trump & DUP. I'm essentially the best political commentator in the world. I would imagine if they were aware of my exploits they'd have me on newsnight with a very generous appearance fee.

Culture is an element of soft power, and the pre-dominance of a certain quaint 'Britishness' does help spread our ideals, yeah. Have a look at the Soft Power index if you want some more info. We are in the top 5, and I'd argue the BBC is a big part of that.

 

[Camborne Gills]

Perhaps if these people weren't paid so much, the BBC could get back some of the sports that they have lost over the past few years
F1
Moto GP
Horse Racing
Cricket

 

[BigDaveCUFC]

The problem is the only way to compare everything is if you can get the exact same disclosure from ITV, C4 and numerous other channels like Sky.

I'd be pretty sure they will also have the similar sort of wages (If not worse) and also similar aspects in regards to males being higher paid.

Do people shown get paid too much.....yep, but i'd expect that is just the wage range for this area of work, much like i feel the wages paid in football are a disgrace or wages paid to film stars is a joke.....it is just how wages are in these areas.

I can understand the question here is public funded, but there is not much can be done when that is the way of the wages market in these areas........just a way for people who do not want to pay a license fee to moan about the license fee i suppose (who would then moan like made if that went and was replaced with subscription channels/mass of adverts)

 

[Dave]

Perhaps if these people weren't paid so much, the BBC could get back some of the sports that they have lost over the past few years

Cricket

Cricket will be shown on bbc from 2020 although it will only be the new domestic twenty20 and England twenty20 . By then there will probably be a new bbc channel which it will be on and it'll get no viewers.

 

[HertsWolf]

Capitalism innit, you can level the same argument at pretty much any highly paid field and the demand for the best workers in such a field. Lineker is the best sports presenter on television, a lot of people watch the sport he presents, he is going to earn a huge wage at the BBC or go elsewhere and earn the same (or greater) wage. If someone else presented, quality would suffer and figures would probably drop. The BBC obviously thinks he's worth it relative to Mark Chapman presenting for half a million or something.

Yeh, agree. No doubt the Telegraph/Mail/Express/Sun stable of Tory marketing publications will make lots about them being paid "more than the prime minister".

Frankly, I'm relieved that these people are paid more than the PM, who has shown herself to be indecisive, incapable of keeping her Cabinet under control, a poor decision-maker, and clueless about international trade.

Some people are paid high salaries. It's the world we live in.

 

[St. Juste]

The reasons why these were disclosed was due to a concerted campaign by the Daily Mail, even if for the wrong reasons, I'm very much in favour of it. There should be far more transparency around wages in an economy, I'm more than happy for mine and everyone elses' wages to be available (as is the case in Norway).

Some of what is revealed indicates some very poor choices from the BBC - although the same to be true of all large organisations. Nobody has ever watched MOTD because of Gary Linekar, he has a very easy job and it is one he does relatively badly - albeit far better than the catastrophe he was when he started. Chapman, Chiles, Walker could all do it better than him and for far less money.

Regarding Chris Evans, I have genuinely never seen / listened to anything he has done so don't know if he is good or not.

A contrast would be Andrew Neil, people absolutely watch 'This Week' because he is on it. He makes the show, and derives most of the content. I hope he is getting money through his production company as it's a bit of travesty if he's getting paid less than a tenth of Linekar, given he is a distinguished presenter and Linekar is a fool.

Good time to bring up Linekar thinking Rashford is better than Mbappe though.

 

[smat]

IT'S FUCKING LINEKER

 

[St. Juste]

IT'S FUCKING LINEKER

He's not even a household name....

 

[HertsWolf]

Some of what is revealed indicates some very poor choices from the BBC - although the same to be true of all large organisations. Nobody has ever watched MOTD because of Gary Linekar, he has a very easy job and it is one he does relatively badly - albeit far better than the catastrophe he was when he started. Chapman, Chiles, Walker could all do it better than him and for far less money.

Each of these statements is simply your opinion. This is the problem with revealing salaries. It descends quickly into "good" or "bad".
No organisation pays the highest possible salary for a given person. It's probably the reverse, in fact. Organisations typically pay the least they can get away with while keeping the employee (or contractor) happy.

Out of interest, have you ever presented a TV programme? Just wondering how you are defining "easy". Personally, I don't watch or listen to either Lineker or Chris Evans: just not to my taste. But I do have some degree of trust in Non Executive Directors, Audit Committees, Remuneration Committees and other governance and oversight mechanisms.

IMHO, the REAL problem in this country is the utterly loathsome and malevolent influence of wanky c*ntmuppets like Paul Dacre and Rupert Murdoch and the absolutely fucking spineless, greasy turd-licking journalists that work for them that have massive, undue and unelected influence over this country's democracy.

BBC salaries? Who gives a fuck? They are paid within a managed system with recognised oversight. But who is howling over the fact that Enola May has refused to confirm or deny whether Murdoch influenced her on bringing Michael "Mr Loyalty" Gove back. A newspaper baron telling an elected prime minister on who to add to her cabinet? For real? And we're fucking worried about what Lineker gets? ffs.

 

[HertsWolf]

BBC sold 3000 hours of programming worldwide in the 3 months to Feb 17. iIn 15/16 sales were £1bn, with £134m profit and returning £222m to the BBC coffers.

Just because certain people don't like particular shows, doesn't mean they are shit. Always worth remembering that different people have different tastes in film, TV and music. The BBC does pretty well and is the biggest seller of TV programming globally outside the Hollywood studios. It's the envy of the world.

 

[Ebeneezer Goode]

I'm sure many other networks would do very well too if the government forced the public to pay them £3bn+ every year.