David Silva’s all-time ranking

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If David Silva were to retire today, is he already a TOP 5 Premier League midfielder of all time?

Scholes
Lampard
Keane
Vieira
David Silva

What do you think?
 

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I saw his goals from last night and they were both sublime. The fact that he has been playing like this for Manchester City for (I think) six seasons suggests its more than a fluke. Yes, David Silva is a truly great player who deserves to be in a top five list.

From what I read, Roy Keane was a psychopathic brute who should never have been allowed out in public without a muzzle on. He once went out of his way to deliberately cripple an opponent and effectively end that player's career, to settle an old insult. That's not what great players do. Criminals who belong in prison or a psychiatric ward do that.

Paul Scholes was pretty good but would he have held a place in this Manchester City team...? Remove De Bruyne or Silva for Scholes...? A good thought for discussion there, methinks.

No idea who Viera was except that I think he played for Arsenal when they were good.

I rather liked Lampard. I think he'd deserve a place in the "Top Five" list.

Anger management issues or what.
The wildly staring eyes.... the veins bulging in the neck...... the barely controlled rage....
And all because Andy D'Urso had the temerity to (correctly) give Middlesbrough
a penalty at Old Trafford.

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So, what did Alex Ferguson do..? Gave him the Captaincy.
 
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yeah what kind of player gets mad at a ref after a penalty is given
 

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Paul Scholes was pretty good but would he have held a place in this Manchester City team...? Remove De Bruyne or Silva for Scholes...? A good thought for discussion there, methinks.
A very good discussion indeed. Personnally I'd rather have Scholes than Silva. A completely biased opinion.
 

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The revisionism about Scholes is funny and sometimes convincing.
 

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and carrick is up next. world class, british regista, one of a kind etc.
 

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yeah what kind of player gets mad at a ref after a penalty is given

But it's a question of degree. You can be annoyed. You might even have a moan. That's the sort of thing that normal people do. What was disturbing about Roy Keane was the insane, swivel-eyed extreme rage. There were issues there that went beyond being a tad irritated.
 

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and carrick is up next. world class, british regista, one of a kind etc.

Just found an amazing quote about how good Carrick is.

"People say I am the greatest player ever. No. The greatest player is a beautiful English rose called Michael Carrick. He could pass a football to his centre backs like no other" - Pele, Maradona, Ronaldo and Messi in chorus
 

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I’m pleased he’s started getting the goals that his ability deserves. Because as beautiful, mercurial and almost perfect as he is, he’s never been able to get that to translate into passing the ball into the top corner in the same way as he could dink a pass onto a 50p from 60 yards.

I think Pep might have got him a golf coach.

He’s up there with one of the best in the PL, but he’d be a little higher if he had managed double figures for goals four or five times. Hopefully will end this season with his highest goals tally for the club, though.
 

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Wow, then he must have been good. Or are you really just being biased..? LOL.
Scholes was the best midfielder in the best midfield the Premier League has ever seen (Giggs - Keane - Scholes - Beckham). He was probably the best passer that ever played under Alex Ferguson too.

Scholes and David Silva do help to control games, so I can see the similarities (as their influence is seen not just the last third, but in the centre too). I would say Scholes' goalscoring, movement and long range distribution was better, but David Silva's ball control, throughballs and dribbling were better.

In that sense, Scholes would be very effective in Pep's 4-3-3, 4-1-4-1 or 3-4-2-1.
 

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Scholes in his prime would walk into the City team. He was the best midfielder in the league for about a decade for the most dominant team in English history. David Silva is a top 5 player perhaps (Steven Gerrard weirdly left out), but give me a break. "Pretty good". Scholes was far more consistent and controlled games at the highest level more than Silva ever has. Most lists online will correctly put him #1. Don't make me bring out the Xavi and Zidane quotes.

Kevin De Bruyne has a chance to eclipse them all though, for sure. And he is making Silva look a lot better the past few seasons. Maybe we should be debating his all-time ranking instead. He's the current Manchester City player that controls games like Scholes did in his pomp.

1. Scholes.
2/3. Gerrard, Lampard.
4. Keane.
5. Vieira.
6. Xabi Alonso.
7. Fabregas.
8. David Silva.
 
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I'd have Vieira over Keane.

I'd have Xabi Alonso over both.

I also think a top 5 that doesn't include Gerrard, Lampard and Scholes in any order, right now, is wrong. If we're taking consistency over a period of time as a clear yardstick then nobody is moving them three out of that top 5.
 

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Kevin De Bruyne has a chance to eclipse them all though, for sure. And he is making Silva look a lot better the past few seasons. Maybe we should be debating his all-time ranking instead. He's the current Manchester City player that controls games like Scholes did in his pomp.

1. Scholes.
2/3. Gerrard, Lampard.
4. Keane.
5. Vieira.
6. Xabi Alonso.
7. Fabregas.
8. David Silva.
Yes, De Bruyne needs a few seasons more before edging into the conversation. His current passing and crossing ability is sensational without a doubt though.

I don’t think Xabi Alonso (Liverpool Premier League career) deserves to be included in the same bracket as Scholes/Lampard/Keane/Vieira/David Silva/Gerrard.

Good Fabregas inclusion. I think Yaya Touré makes my Top 10.
 

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1. Scholes.
2/3. Gerrard, Lampard.
4. Keane.
5. Vieira.
6. Xabi Alonso.
7. Fabregas.
8. David Silva.
It depends on what you need them for, too. All of these players you've mentioned (KDB is a great shout too but he's still too young) could have a shout depending on the team. Take the current top six:

City: They'd have Xabi above everyone I think.
United: Gerrard. He's exactly what they need as a no 10.
Liverpool: Gerrard and fuck you.
Spurs: Scholes.
Chelsea: Lampard OBV
Arsenal: Vieira.

I don't know what point this makes aside from Silva not being all that really. He's a very good player but he's some way behind Gerrard, Lampard and Scholes.
 

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and gary speed (and probably rob lee too)
 

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Reckon David Batty edges Silva out mate. Just.
 
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Yeah, seeing as, according to this forum, David Silva isn't worthy of sniffing the exhaust of the van that takes Paul Scholes' jock strap to the laundry I would offer Joey Barton, Carlton Palmer, Geoff Thomas and Andy Sinton as automatic shove-ins to the Manchester City midfield.
 

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