Grimsby v Lincoln

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Massive early game in the L2 calendar this one.

Anyone know if Lincoln have sold their full allocation?

Pressure entirely on the visitors, with anything other than an absolute spanking being a total failure, right?
 

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Massive early game in the L2 calendar this one.

Anyone know if Lincoln have sold their full allocation?

Pressure entirely on the visitors, with anything other than an absolute spanking being a total failure, right?
Yep.
 

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Can this thread just stay here permanently so you lot don’t have to argue on everything else?

I mean, I genuinely think it’s funny but it would be nice to consolidate all the best of GTFCFish v Impish in one place so I don’t have to look through a few different threads.
 

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I think we'll be up for this and it'll be great to see a couple of local lads playing for us in a derby but sadly Lincoln are the team to beat for me this season and they've just got more quality around the park. I don't see us getting battered by any means but I'll be surprised if we manage to win. I'll go for an optimistic 1-1 and that's purely down to my opinion that Lincoln will smash the league this season.
 

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Can this thread just stay here permanently so you lot don’t have to argue on everything else?

I mean, I genuinely think it’s funny but it would be nice to consolidate all the best of GTFCFish v Impish in one place so I don’t have to look through a few different threads.
It is a fair suggestion, but to be honest it's really not our fault that Port Vale and Crewe is such a pathetic rivalry that you don't have any good bantz.
 

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I think we'll be up for this and it'll be great to see a couple of local lads playing for us in a derby but sadly Lincoln are the team to beat for me this season and they've just got more quality around the park. I don't see us getting battered by any means but I'll be surprised if we manage to win. I'll go for an optimistic 1-1 and that's purely down to my opinion that Lincoln will smash the league this season.
Yep, Jolley needs to get the new/non-GY players up for this and understanding that this is a thing that means something, because Cowley has definitely got that instilled in them lot.
 
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Massive early game in the L2 calendar this one.

Anyone know if Lincoln have sold their full allocation?

Pressure entirely on the visitors, with anything other than an absolute spanking being a total failure, right?

Sold out by last Thursday evening- will be a great atmosphere (particularly after your win yesterday as well).

I'll take a 1-0 grind away from home (as a NTFC last week) and a good spanking when you come to the Bank later this season.
 

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It is a fair suggestion, but to be honest it's really not our fault that Port Vale and Crewe is such a pathetic rivalry that you don't have any good bantz.
Crewe aren’t really our rivals. They just don’t have a proper local derby so they’ve tried to make us v them one in recent years. It’s weird.

Don’t even know why Grimsby and Lincoln proper hate each other anyway. The distance is more than double that of Vale (Burslem) to Crewe and is actually more like us trying create a proper rivalry with Stockport.
 
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Crewe aren’t really our rivals. They just don’t have a proper local derby so they’ve tried to make us v them one in recent years. It’s weird.

Don’t even know why Grimsby and Lincoln proper hate each other anyway. The distance is more than double that of Vale (Burslem) to Crewe and is actually more like us trying create a proper rivalry with Stockport.
It's because there's nothing in between to get in the way.

Won't make this one, first time missing Grimsby (A) since 2012.

The Imps lineup on that day, jesus christ...

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Crewe aren’t really our rivals. They just don’t have a proper local derby so they’ve tried to make us v them one in recent years. It’s weird.

Don’t even know why Grimsby and Lincoln proper hate each other anyway. The distance is more than double that of Vale (Burslem) to Crewe and is actually more like us trying create a proper rivalry with Stockport.
Same county, we were formed to stop them winning the county cup back n the 1880s (big thing back then).
I see them as our biggest local rival.
All the big town/cities are miles and miles apart as Lincolnshire is a massive rural county of nothingness really!
 

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Scunny are our biggest rivals and Lincoln are the next best thing.

Should be a decent game as long as both teams don’t revert to hoofball, which suits Lincoln better of course (har har). No idea what formation either team will do nor the personnel - a typical early season game.

Lincoln obviously have much more quality than us but that’s not to say we don’t have some decent players. John Welsh would tackle his gran and is already a favourite and I’m hoping to see Charles Vernam play a part. I think we finally have a chance against Lincoln’s midfield but we may struggle against the forward line - Akinde nearly always scores against us and we don’t have a pacy defence at all. I can’t see us scoring many so we have to keep it tight.

Aside from the game, I expect us to sell maybe 6k at most, which would be about 1000 from a sellout. Lincoln can extend their BP sellout run to 2 games. Think a few imps are a bit overconfident; we’re shit and our fans are shit and the town is shit and Lincoln is the best team L2 has ever seen. We’re 2 games into a season lads. I’m glad I get back on Friday so I can attend this one.
 

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We're still a work in progress as the second half proved until we changed yesterday and were very lucky at Northampton.
Not a clue what players or formation we'll play as the entire squad pretty much warrant a start right now.
Expecting Grimsby to play a hell of better than they did at our place back in March when they were bad as any side I saw last season.
 

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As long as we put up a fight I'll be happy, but can't see anything other than a Lincoln win and to be honest the pressure is all on them, it's not often we are the underdogs in this game but at the moment we definitely are.

That said its a local Derby and anything can happen.
 

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Lincoln's budget is probably about 10 times bigger then Gimsby's, so they should be favourites. The pressure is all on them. Anything less then a convincing win and serious questions wil need to start being asked of the Cowleys.

Think Grimsby are the more skilful side though, they will at least try and play some football and if they can dominate possession, Lincoln's mega money brick shithouse xi might struggle.

I wonder if DC line up on the pitch and shake hands with the Grimsby players before the game?
 

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I’m looking forward to the game. We still don’t really know how good both teams are. By all accounts Grimsby were dire against FGR, but decent against Macc. Likewise we weren’t great against the cobblers, but looked very good against Swindon.

Obviously we will be favourites for this one, yet I still think it will be tight. If we score first we could win by a couple. If the cods score first it might be a struggle. I’m still not used to being the favourites in these games and part of me still thinks Lincoln will screw up in these sorts of games, despite the Cowleys’ very good record.

I still haven’t a foggiest which players will be in the starting 11, nor what formation we’ll play.
 

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Crewe aren’t really our rivals. They just don’t have a proper local derby so they’ve tried to make us v them one in recent years. It’s weird.

Don’t even know why Grimsby and Lincoln proper hate each other anyway. The distance is more than double that of Vale (Burslem) to Crewe and is actually more like us trying create a proper rivalry with Stockport.
You've got to embrace these local rivalries, surely? Sometimes they're the only games you have to look forward to, especially if you're in midtable with nowt to play for. See everyone else's responses about why we're rivals. It's ramped up over the last decade and a half or so too, with us only having spent two seasons apart in recent years. We even went down to the Conference to get rid of them, but they just followed us down there the next season!
 

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Think Grimsby are the more skilful side though, they will at least try and play some football and if they can dominate possession, Lincoln's mega money brick shithouse xi might struggle
I think some people, me included, have got Lincoln all wrong. Big they are, but the expected hoofball was missing on Saturday. Replaced by quick, incisive play. Maybe that was just for us, but I doubt it. I’m a convert.
 

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Nobody has got it wrong because Lincoln have played like that traditionally for years.

Does sound like they are attempting a change mind, be interesting to see if they revert when it gets tough.
 

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We're not even that big a side. I'm not sure where that comes from, and it was the same last season. We can't be the only side who have two, tall dominating CB's and someone who can hold the ball up, up front? Around that, we're not overly tall.

Nobody has got it wrong because Lincoln have played like that traditionally for years.

Does sound like they are attempting a change mind, be interesting to see if they revert when it gets tough.
There's an element of truth in that. People focus on the KA days (often forgetting about John Beck...) but for the 10 years from 2006/07 we had Schofield who wanted total football and it got for a season, then we had Peter Jackson who wasn't a direct manager, nor was Sutton whose idea was PL U23 football and Steve Tilson loved a possession based game, too.

Holdsworth was a bit of a hybrid for us, Gary Simpson was direct, Moyses was similar to Holdsworth and then Cowley who's more direct.

Since I started watching Lincoln at the Oldham game in December 2016 in 2002, we've had about as many direct sides as we have footballing sides with varying degrees of success to both.
 

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We're not even that big a side. I'm not sure where that comes from, and it was the same last season. We can't be the only side who have two, tall dominating CB's and someone who can hold the ball up, up front? Around that, we're not overly tall.


There's an element of truth in that. People focus on the KA days (often forgetting about John Beck...) but for the 10 years from 2006/07 we had Schofield who wanted total football and it got for a season, then we had Peter Jackson who wasn't a direct manager, nor was Sutton whose idea was PL U23 football and Steve Tilson loved a possession based game, too.

Holdsworth was a bit of a hybrid for us, Gary Simpson was direct, Moyses was similar to Holdsworth and then Cowley who's more direct.

Since I started watching Lincoln at the Oldham game in December 2016 in 2002, we've had about as many direct sides as we have footballing sides with varying degrees of success to both.
I have been supporting Mansfield roughly the same amount of time you have been supporting Lincoln and you tend to fare better playing direct from my vague memories.

By better I mean losing in the play-offs every time ;)
 

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I think some people, me included, have got Lincoln all wrong. Big they are, but the expected hoofball was missing on Saturday. Replaced by quick, incisive play. Maybe that was just for us, but I doubt it. I’m a convert.
I think that our squad depth this year will allow us to mix up how we play depending on who we play and how the game is going. Rhead is still a terrific target man and will allow us to play direct if needed.
 

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I think that our squad depth this year will allow us to mix up how we play depending on who we play and how the game is going. Rhead is still a terrific target man and will allow us to play direct if needed.
Not sure squad depth is the correct term. Yeah, you've got better and more varied attacking options than last season but that is because you've brought players in with more strings to their bows. Without checking, I'd guess you've got a similar amount of attacking players as you did last season but that they ecompass a greater amount of attributes.

The Cowley recruitment model is a double edged sword for me. He's so picky which will land you some of the top signings in the division but your small squad size could be your undoing.

Lincoln have one of the best starting XIs and benches in the division, but most of the other fancied teams have better strength in depth.

If your squad burns out and/or you pick up a few injuries and it costs you promotion, then the buck will have to stop with Cowley.

I have been supporting Mansfield roughly the same amount of time you have been supporting Lincoln and you tend to fare better playing direct from my vague memories.

By better I mean losing in the play-offs every time ;)
Whenever they attempted to deviate away from a direct approach before though, it was more often than not implemented by an uninspiring manager with poor to average players. You'd expect the current regime to be able to have some success. Braintree played some decent stuff at times under them and quite often at this level the teams that can mix it up the best occupy promotion or playoff spots.
 
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Not sure squad depth is the correct term. Yeah, you've got better and more varied attacking options than last season but that is because you've brought players in with more strings to their bows. Without checking, I'd guess you've got a similar amount of attacking players as you did last season but that they ecompass a greater amount of attributes.

The Cowley recruitment model is a double edged sword for me. He's so picky which will land you some of the top signings in the division but your small squad size could be your undoing.

Lincoln have one of the best starting XIs and benches in the division, but most of the other fancied teams have better strength in depth.

If your squad burns out and/or you pick up a few injuries and it costs you promotion, then the buck will have to stop with Cowley.
Nail on head. You’re completely right when I talk about squad depth. Improved squad quality is a more accurate term.

Again you’re right with the low squad numbers potentially being a problem (see the end of last season for us). Though with the better squad, losing a starter (which we’re not even sure who that includes currently) should be a smaller blow.

I think a few of us are hoping to get a one or two loans in.

One thing we will have to manage is keeping everyone happy, because everyone wants (and expects) to play. Even Palmer wasn’t happy last season!
 

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I would like us to have 25 players but we wont although he's said he'd like two more in on loan taking us to 23, smaller than most in this league I would guess?
We filled the bench with youth team players at the end last season as we were so short of players.
 

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I have been supporting Mansfield roughly the same amount of time you have been supporting Lincoln and you tend to fare better playing direct from my vague memories.

By better I mean losing in the play-offs every time ;)
We played a more passing style against you guys in 06/07 under Schofield, your manager at the time said he knew what to expect from Lincoln! Big direct and no passing...
We won 4-2, passing it around you for an hour before you realised! Think he got sacked your manager as clearly didn't scout opposition!!!
 

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