Home atmosphere?

[Luke Imp]

Can't imagine there's much better than the San Sincil at the minute (he says, off the back of a a comparatively subdued one today)

Obviously helps when you've only lost 5 in your last 80 home games in the lasts 2½ years!

 

[Imp in Branston]

Can't imagine there's much better than the San Sincil at the minute (he says, off the back of a a comparatively subdued one today)

Obviously helps when you've only lost 5 in your last 80 home games in the lasts 2½ years!

And before that 2½ years it would probably have taken us 80 home games to win 5

 

[hellogregory]

Brunton Park is pretty shit for a couple of reasons.

1. The area where people sing tends to be the Warwick road end. unfortunately sound doesn’t seem to leave that stand so you only experience atmosphere if you’re in there.

2. 4,500 fans in an 18,000 capacity stadium is always asking a lot to make atmosphere.

 

[Waluigi]

The 617 Squadron group of fans (Upper 7 and a bit of Lower 7 of main stand- the ones who don't sit down all game!) were created around 8 years ago to generate some atmosphere and, as crowds have grown, the atmosphere has got better- particularly as they sing for the whole 90 minutes and mainly when the rest of the crowd join in.

Yeah they've made a proper effort and I reckon the atmosphere was pretty good even pre Cowley, when we were absolute shite. 200 guys in upper 7 used to properly go for it even then.

It was crap yesterday tho. Early start doesn't help.

 

[Son of Cod]

Can someone update this table please and put Lincoln back down where they belong after a pitiful atmosphere yesterday? Thanks.

 

[Waluigi]

I liked how respectful your fans were though. Spent the afternoon quietly watching, in awe, the champions. As it should be.

 

[StrangelyBrown]

Can someone update this table please and put Lincoln back down where they belong after a pitiful atmosphere yesterday? Thanks.

Funny how bitter fans get when they lose- pitiful it was not. Raucous, rousing it wasn't either. It was a routine game for us whereas your fans were selling tickets for £100 to each other....to watch politely and quietly the champions elect.

Whats it like to see a crowd....what's it like to see a....you get the picture

 

[Son of Cod]

Is this little "polite" joke on Vital or something? 3rd time you've collectively said that now.

The atmosphere was shite from both sides going off the 45mins I listened to. At least we're admitting we made no noise though. I'm not bitter at all either, I just said fair play in the match thread. I never expected to win this match.

It's not my fault you don't like my (correct) opinion that the atmosphere at SB yesterday wasn't befitting of a team who top a table of the best home atmospheres in the land. We all know that is subjective nonsense too, Lincoln are traditionally nowhere near the top of that.

 

[StrangelyBrown]

Is this little "polite" joke on Vital or something? 3rd time you've collectively said that now.

The atmosphere was shite from both sides going off the 45mins I listened to. At least we're admitting we made no noise though. I'm not bitter at all either, I just said fair play in the match thread. I never expected to win this match.

It's not my fault you don't like my (correct) opinion that the atmosphere at SB yesterday wasn't befitting of a team who top a table of the best home atmospheres in the land. We all know that is subjective nonsense too, Lincoln are traditionally nowhere near the top of that.

Didn't know you were such a regular attender at SB to know what the atmosphere is like.

Yesterday was an average game, with an average atmosphere (once the teams had come out and settled down- there's more than enough videos on social media to show you what the atmosphere was like until we scored).

 

[Waluigi]

Is the atmosphere ever good for an early kickoff though. Bizarre to say it but the place was bouncing for Newport a few weeks back, that two hours makes all the difference I reckon.

On the other hand, I was back in London by teatime so that's a plus point of an early imo.

 

[Son of Cod]

Didn't know you were such a regular attender at SB to know what the atmosphere is like.

Probably been more times than most Lincoln fans tbf.

 

[Waluigi]

Probably been more times than most Lincoln fans tbf.

Given that we've had 6/7k season ticket holders for one and a half seasons now this isn't true is it? Don't be silly.

 

[Son of Cod]

Given that we've had 6/7k season ticket holders for one and a half seasons now this isn't true is it? Don't be silly.

Oh is that true? Apologies I don't believe any of you have mentioned that before.

 

[Waluigi]

Grimsby fan logic:

people stumping up hundreds of pounds in the summer and going to Sincil Bank every week: plastic fans

guys who post a lot and go to the big Grimsby games: real fans

 

[Enzo Scifo's Right Foot]

What year were Lincoln City formed ?

Atmosphere is great but it’s not as important as things such as the league you play in , league position , home attendance and above all obviously how noisy you are away from home and how many you take ! Naturally

 

[Waluigi]

I'd say the single most important factor is what year you were founded, yes.

 

[Son of Cod]

Grimsby fan logic:

people stumping up hundreds of pounds in the summer and going to Sincil Bank every week: plastic fans

guys who post a lot and go to the big Grimsby games: real fans

Where were these soi-disant real fans when you were bringing sub-1000 followings for years to Blundell Park?

 

[Son of Cod]

Where were these soi-disant real fans when you were bringing sub-1000 followings for years to Blundell Park?

Oh yes it was cold and there was dog poo on the streets and you always lost there anyway.

 

[StrangelyBrown]

Where were these soi-disant real fans when you were bringing sub-1000 followings for years to Blundell Park?

Same place your fans go when you are poor- only it took us 6 seasons to get to 2,500. It took you 10 games last season to get to the same number (except of course you report ST holders even when they don't turn up so your attendances are actually worse than you report)

Fans follow success when it brings communities together and everyone buys into it- you should try it.

 

[Waluigi]

Where were these soi-disant real fans when you were bringing sub-1000 followings for years to Blundell Park?

Perhaps you should ask why Grimsby didn't build on their promotion season? Why you've not converted casual fans into committed season ticket holders? Why your club isn't attracting new fans from the community it's based in? Why your club is at best treading water?

If you're honestly happy that Grimsby play in front of 4,000 committed die hards, and would hate if you suddenly attracted another 4,000 season ticket holders in the course of a season while winning loads of games then...well that's fine. There's probably something there about the attitude of our city and of your town.

 

[Son of Cod]

Same place your fans go when you are poor- only it took us 6 seasons to get to 2,500. It took you 10 games last season to get to the same number (except of course you report ST holders even when they don't turn up so your attendances are actually worse than you report)

Fans follow success when it brings communities together and everyone buys into it- you should try it.

You're preaching to the converted, we all know our home support isn't great. However, at least when we are doing shite we'll always sell out SB no excuses.

Perhaps you should ask why Grimsby didn't build on their promotion season? Why you've not converted casual fans into committed season ticket holders? Why your club isn't attracting new fans from the community it's based in? Why your club is at best treading water?

If you're honestly happy that Grimsby play in front of 4,000 committed die hards, and would hate if you suddenly attracted another 4,000 season ticket holders in the course of a season while winning loads of games then...well that's fine. There's probably something there about the attitude of our city and of your town.

Why didn't we build on our promotion season? Probably because we had a manager who was chomping at the bit to jump ship and a chairman who only offered him rolling contracts. It's easy for you to sit and talk about treading water when you have a progressive board and a the amazing Cowley Bros, however you're in cuckoo land if you think the current Lincoln model is a viable path for everyone. You made a very good appointment with the Cowleys, had a couple of cup runs and did some savvy PR. The importance of those cup runs was massive though. Need I remind you, it wasn't long ago you attempted to copy our Operation Promotion campaign.

LOL at the our city and your town comment too you smug git. It's Lincoln mate, not the fucking Dubai construction boom.

 

[Waluigi]

Yeah Lincoln is more sustainable long term than Dubai.

Anyway, Grimsby's best chance of doing anything even close to what we've done is to stick with Michael Jolley. It was a pretty blatant copy of what we did, desperation setting in at the GTFC boardroom until they realise there's a guy who's applied who has a degree just like that Cowley guy so they can stick a Proper Football Man on the backburner for a bit.

 

[StrangelyBrown]

You're preaching to the converted, we all know our home support isn't great. However, at least when we are doing shite we'll always sell out SB no excuses.


Why didn't we build on our promotion season? Probably because we had a manager who was chomping at the bit to jump ship and a chairman who only offered him rolling contracts. It's easy for you to sit and talk about treading water when you have a progressive board and a the amazing Cowley Bros, however you're in cuckoo land if you think the current Lincoln model is a viable path for everyone. You made a very good appointment with the Cowleys, had a couple of cup runs and did some savvy PR. The importance of those cup runs was massive though. Need I remind you, it wasn't long ago you attempted to copy our Operation Promotion campaign.

LOL at the our city and your town comment too you smug git. It's Lincoln mate, not the fucking Dubai construction boom.

I never thought I'd see the day County brought less than 1,000 to SB but that happened this season.

Football is a funny old game and most of us have seen the good, the bad and the ugly- some of us have had more good than bad or ugly but for Imps it is much more of the bad and ugly than good.

So if we are overly happy to experience some positivity then it isn't really surprising- I've said on numerous boards, and this thread, we are not better than any other fans (the 45 Stevenage fans who travelled to Morecambe yesterday have just as much passion for their club as the 9,600 who were at SB yesterday) and our current successes don't make us anything other than fans of a small regional club who are having a bit of a purple patch and thoroughly enjoying it.

In 37 years of watching the Imps and I haven't had a better, more sustained good time than right now- and I am going to enjoy it, every second of it. And if we have found a few more fans, families, kids on the way who suddenly think Lincoln is cool to watch then that's even better.

Still doesn't make me any better than anyone else but it makes me happier than others at the moment.

 

[Son of Cod]

Yeah Lincoln is more sustainable long term than Dubai.

Anyway, Grimsby's best chance of doing anything even close to what we've done is to stick with Michael Jolley. It was a pretty blatant copy of what we did, desperation setting in at the GTFC boardroom until they realise there's a guy who's applied who has a degree just like that Cowley guy so they can stick a Proper Football Man on the backburner for a bit.

Ah yes Lincoln are the first club to appoint a manager with a degree. Absolute nonsense. You appointed a manager with a proven record in non-league, hardly tearing up the rulebook. Jolley was completely out of leftfield and not even on anyone else's radar at the time, I'm really struggling to see the parallels here.

 

[StrangelyBrown]

Yeah Lincoln is more sustainable long term than Dubai.

Anyway, Grimsby's best chance of doing anything even close to what we've done is to stick with Michael Jolley. It was a pretty blatant copy of what we did, desperation setting in at the GTFC boardroom until they realise there's a guy who's applied who has a degree just like that Cowley guy so they can stick a Proper Football Man on the backburner for a bit.

Jolley has real potential at Grimsby- it took him a while to get to grips with EFL, the club politics and how to win (IMHO) but if he keeps finding players like Ohman then he will be building a good team. Ohman looks (already) destined to become a quality town player.

For Town (again IMO), everything has to be about next season now and building a team which can compete with the 4 clubs who come down from EFL1 to get into play-offs or squeeze the autos. Carlisle are currently showing it can be done on a tight budget and County are showing how badly it can be done too on a mammoth budget.

 

[StrangelyBrown]

Ah yes Lincoln are the first club to appoint a manager with a degree. Absolute nonsense. You appointed a manager with a proven record in non-league, hardly tearing up the rulebook. Jolley was completely out of leftfield and not even on anyone else's radar at the time, I'm really struggling to see the parallels here.

Parallels are relative but there

Both managers had track records of managing football teams and creating strong positivity
Both managers have had jobs outside of football and understand the real world
Both managers have a very proactive and clear understanding of community engagement
Both managers have an ethos of building a team around a strong spine
Both managers were brought in when the clubs were p*ssing in the wind trying to improve

There will always be differences but Jolley, if supported and given the right backing, will be really good for Town short, medium and long term

 

[Laker]

Is the atmosphere ever good for an early kickoff though. Bizarre to say it but the place was bouncing for Newport a few weeks back, that two hours makes all the difference I reckon.

On the other hand, I was back in London by teatime so that's a plus point of an early imo.

I get the point though I would say two of the best atmospheres I experienced at the Abbey in the Conference were our early kick off semi final play offs against Stevenage and Halifax. Those and Luton at home in the cup (3pm) and in the league when we were promoted (midweek).

It depends on a few factors but a fair chunk riding on the game is the key factor on a home atmosphere. As we’ve had very little to get excited about recently, our home atmosphere has been pretty poor.

 

[Son of Cod]

Jolley has real potential at Grimsby- it took him a while to get to grips with EFL, the club politics and how to win (IMHO) but if he keeps finding players like Ohman then he will be building a good team. Ohman looks (already) destined to become a quality town player.

For Town (again IMO), everything has to be about next season now and building a team which can compete with the 4 clubs who come down from EFL1 to get into play-offs or squeeze the autos. Carlisle are currently showing it can be done on a tight budget and County are showing how badly it can be done too on a mammoth budget.

Jolley has real potential at Grimsby- it took him a while to get to grips with EFL, the club politics and how to win (IMHO) but if he keeps finding players like Ohman then he will be building a good team. Ohman looks (already) destined to become a quality town player.

For Town (again IMO), everything has to be about next season now and building a team which can compete with the 4 clubs who come down from EFL1 to get into play-offs or squeeze the autos. Carlisle are currently showing it can be done on a tight budget and County are showing how badly it can be done too on a mammoth budget.

I think he's still very much getting to grips tactically, but he's definitely getting there. And yeah, most Town fans have been of the opinion that this is a season of re-building and then hopefully next season we might be able kick on and have a go at promotion. Jolley himself said upon being appointed that he wanted three windows to get things in shape.

 

[Enzo Scifo's Right Foot]

I'd say the single most important factor is what year you were founded, yes.

Not at all but judging it on just a few recent seasons is a tad misleading don’t you think ? Football has been around for quite a while chap

 

[Davidimp]

We were formed on 5th December 2016 everyone knows that, if anyone saw us playing before that you're a liar.