Lincoln vs Grimsby

[wangle]

Let's not go around saying we could've had another sent off when we had two blatant elbows in the face and a very good penalty shout waved away. I'm not blaming the referee for our loss today as we didn't do enough but Lincoln were absolutely the beneficiaries of the officials today.

Let's not go around saying we could've had another sent off when we had two blatant elbows in the face and a very good penalty shout waved away. I'm not blaming the referee for our loss today as we didn't do enough but Lincoln were absolutely the beneficiaries of the officials today.

O'Connor might have been, but I didn't have a clear view of it. Not buying the John Akinde's one from my view. Straight after that Thomas (who I thought had a great game considering the service) put an arm into the face of our defender but nothing was given as he didn't roll on the floor.

 

[BlackHaddock]

Drinking myself into oblivion if anyone is interested.

 

[Davidimp]

Mate of mine who sits that end of the coop said Akinde missed him, not even a yellow for him.
Awful game but a good finish for the goal.
McKeown was stupid, right in front of us and literally cleaned Rowe out, ref had no option.
Granted Dean was way too fussy in general during the game.

 

[wangle]

Also agree about the comments about Dean refereeing the game poorly. Expect the a PL ref to allow the game to flow much better, very Whistle happy. The game was no where near as dirty as the stats suggested. On the upside we did get to see the classic Mike Dean play on run.

 

[Imp in Branston]

As expected, we huffed and puffed again without playing well. Grimsby had one chance and gave us a couple of nervy moments from corners but little else to trouble us. Quietest Grimsby crowd I can remember in a fairly quiet crowd overall I thought, certainly heard it far more raucous than that in previous derbies.

Agree about Mike Dean, lots of whistle and not that dirty a game.

If you can take wins when not playing that well it's always a good sign. 30 more points should do it should we get them, I hope we can start to play a bit better with the 3 new and potential 3 extra signings DC seemingly wants.

 

[StrangelyBrown]

As expected, we huffed and puffed again without playing well. Grimsby had one chance and gave us a couple of nervy moments from corners but little else to trouble us. Quietest Grimsby crowd I can remember in a fairly quiet crowd overall I thought, certainly heard it far more raucous than that in previous derbies.

Agree about Mike Dean, lots of whistle and not that dirty a game.

If you can take wins when not playing that well it's always a good sign. 30 more points should do it should we get them, I hope we can start to play a bit better with the 3 new and potential 3 extra signings DC seemingly wants.

We should give credit to the 1500 Grimsby fans who travelled to Sincil Bank today.....and then sat politely and quietly and watched the game.

Wasn't a flat atmosphere but we've had better this season at home already (MK Dons particularly).

 

[PaulHaddock]

After the first 15 Lincoln deserved to be ahead because we were shambolic. The next 15 Lincoln also won but did nothing with the ball. Then we came into it and probably should have equalised during that period, but such is our season. The second half was a complete non-event, even after the red. Rubbish game altogether.

Now, after saying that, I'd like to have seen the game with Lincoln down to 10. I was 10m away and had a clear view - O'Connor's challenge was disgusting. Akinde's was nowhere near as bad but deserved a yellow all the same. With the McKeown, I'm treating it the same as the Kompany/Salah tackle the other week, which I deemed to be an alright tackle. I recognise that no one is ever going to agree on challenges like that so its up to us and the panel if we decide to appeal it.

Mike Dean is truly awful and should never ref a lower-league game again. So many unnecessary yellows and fouls given, yet he completely bottles an early red card. Idiot.

Finally, was impressed by Bolger and McCartan and was suprised when he was taken off. For us, Öhman was immense considering he hasn't played for several months and had Akinde in his pocket (and elbow in his face). You could see how fucked he was when he was subbed. Welcome to England, Ludwig (don't worry, not all teams are like that).

 

[PaulHaddock]

Oh and the whole bank was quiet today, not just the away fans. I suppose each team had one chant each which didn't really help.

 

[Clarkey_GTFC]

I've only seen the incidents the once so would like to see them again, but like I said we didn't do enough throughout the game to warrant winning it so I can't sit here and feel hard done by. Lincoln were solid and deserved the win but we showed enough to leave me encouraged that we're still moving forward.

As for the atmosphere, I just don't think we give as much of a shit about the fixture like we used to. We've made plenty of noise around the country already this season.

 

[StrangelyBrown]

After the first 15 Lincoln deserved to be ahead because we were shambolic. The next 15 Lincoln also won but did nothing with the ball. Then we came into it and probably should have equalised during that period, but such is our season. The second half was a complete non-event, even after the red. Rubbish game altogether.

Now, after saying that, I'd like to have seen the game with Lincoln down to 10. I was 10m away and had a clear view - O'Connor's challenge was disgusting. Akinde's was nowhere near as bad but deserved a yellow all the same. With the McKeown, I'm treating it the same as the Kompany/Salah tackle the other week, which I deemed to be an alright tackle. I recognise that no one is ever going to agree on challenges like that so its up to us and the panel if we decide to appeal it.

Mike Dean is truly awful and should never ref a lower-league game again. So many unnecessary yellows and fouls given, yet he completely bottles an early red card. Idiot.

Finally, was impressed by Bolger and McCartan and was suprised when he was taken off. For us, Öhman was immense considering he hasn't played for several months and had Akinde in his pocket (and elbow in his face). You could see how fucked he was when he was subbed. Welcome to England, Ludwig (don't worry, not all teams are like that).

You have got a huge signing with Ohman- he is genuine quality and you need to build the team around players like him.

Was too far away for a birds eye view of O'Connor BUT he was running at pace and Ohman ended up on the floor. Have often seen them given as reckless even if not intended.

As an Imps fan I'd argue both teams were lucky in the card department in one way or another but don't disagree we probably got lucky with O'Connor.

Akinde I was closer to- don't think he actually touched Ohman but the ball smacked Ohman right in the face which would not have helped him.

Not the best game I've seen this season but local derbies invariably aren't.

 

[StrangelyBrown]

Oh and the whole bank was quiet today, not just the away fans. I suppose each team had one chant each which didn't really help.

Not sure it was quiet- just wasn't a raucous derby game.

 

[Nat Brown's Foil Coat]

Not sure it was quiet- just wasn't a raucous derby game.

I agree. It's been flat since we've both been in the FL. When we were wrestling each other in the non-league dirt it was a lot more raucous.

 

[wangle]

As for the atmosphere, I just don't think we give as much of a shit about the fixture like we used to. We've made plenty of noise around the country already this season.

Really odd, both fixtures have been a poor atmosphere this year. Today was one of the worst this season at sincik Bank. Not sure if it was because the game had little flow or the early kick off effects it?

You'll be more than fine this season. Think you'll finish a comfortable upper mid table. Not sure you're quite there in terms of play off push, but give Jolley a year or two and he'll improve you.

 

[Luke Imp]

Everything was very average today. Both sides, atmosphere, game in general, no real flash points etc

We've had home games this season where it's felt ground out wins but despite the scoreline today, I thought it was a pretty comfortable and routine win. We weren't great by any stretch, but we didn't need to be. It felt like we were playing within ourselves more than grinding through the game.

I initially thought McKeown's was a sending off and having seen the reply it doesn't look as much of a red card as I did at the time but it's still a red IMO. It's his trailing leg that got the ball whilst his other leg was high on Rowe.

As it panned out, it was a good game for Bolger to come in to for his debut who was pretty solid and a good one generally for the team with three games this week.

Nothing sums Mike Dean up better than refusing to have a photo with a young fan because he was warming up, as if that 10 seconds would make a lot of difference...

 

[Clarkey_GTFC]

Really odd, both fixtures have been a poor atmosphere this year. Today was one of the worst this season at sincik Bank. Not sure if it was because the game had little flow or the early kick off effects it?

You'll be more than fine this season. Think you'll finish a comfortable upper mid table. Not sure you're quite there in terms of play off push, but give Jolley a year or two and he'll improve you.

The state of the game itself is definitely a factor, if it was more open it would've been a lot louder, or if the red card(s) had come out sooner. It wasn't an exciting game which tends to bore the crowd, even during a derby.

We tend to go on streaks alternating between winning and losing, and at the minute we're back on a losing streak with a very tough run of games still to come. We're a typical mid table side but I maintain that our ceiling is very high and on our day we're a match for anyone, which is encouraging for next season.

I predicted you lot to win the league and it seems like you're incapable of losing the top spot, even when it sounds like you're not playing well. I'll be surprised if you don't go on to win it now. Enjoy being top dog for now and hopefully we can join you in League One before long, unless you come back down too quick!

 

[Waluigi]

The red was a red, unreal that anyone could argue otherwise. He steams in, studs up, knee high. That has to be a red because otherwise the referee is not protecting the players.

Lincoln still a bunch of classless thugs with plastic supporters, and Akinde still a shithouse who falls over in the slightest breeze, but deserved their win today.

I hadn't realised how upset GTFC fans were by the size of our crowds until post match some blokes were bellowing "plastic! plastic!" at bemused Imps fans in the street. Very odd behaviour.

Then again, back in the National League years you lot used to take pride in what a huge club you were, how big your crowds were vs ours and Scunthorpe's etc etc and decided it's the metric that really matters for a club.

Now you lose both on and off the pitch all you can do is get angry I guess? Sorry for attracting new people to football/turning casual fans into regulars. Hopefully Grimsby never do anything like that and you'll remain a town of full kit wankers ardently watching Liverpool and Man Utd on Sky.

I will say, that there's been a clear improvement since I last saw Grimsby, in the derby at SB last season. That was genuinely one of the most pathetic teams I've ever seen, including Tilson's pathetic relegation Imps side. So for Jolley to have pulled you back round to being pretty solid is a hell of an achievement. He deserves time, could build something properly, who knows.

As for the atmosphere, I just don't think we give as much of a shit about the fixture like we used to. We've made plenty of noise around the country already this season.

"Not our real derby anyway". Alright mate, tell yourself that.

 

[Son of Cod]

I mean about saying things like certain teams should be beating ‘teams like Grimsby’ but not about other mid table sides.

He knows exactly what he is doing, as he uses that phrase on an almost bi-weekly basis. Let him have his fun, imagine what it must be like to have never seen your team be better than a lower midtable L1 side.

I was at QPR v Preston yesterday, so only listened to the first half en route. Can only echo the other comments that is sounded flatter than a pancake. We've got form for taking big crowds and not making much noise. I remember being buzzing about a the trip to York back in our first season down in the Conference days and taking a big following midweek only for us to perform poorly, lose 1-0 and barely make a sound on the terrace. We are usually very good away, but sometimes fans have off days too I guess. Probably not helped by a shit game and sounded like the home fans were crap too.

The red was 100% a red too. Will wait for the extended highlights until I make a judgement on these elbows.

Fair play to Lincoln, though. Got the job done even if it was ro be expected. I feared for the worst when the earlyish goal went and we were trying a new formation.

 

[PaulHaddock]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1086886330020364288

Edit: Looking at Vitals, it’s amazing how biased some Imps are towards the big decisions yesterday.

 

[Guernica]

Yes, only Imps are biased......

There were poor decisions made throughout the game some go for you, some go against you. I can see where this conversation is going to go so I'm out.

 

[Clarkey_GTFC]

"Not our real derby anyway". Alright mate, tell yourself that.

I wouldn't ever deny it's a fierce derby but it is a little lopsided, you've always cared a bit more about us than us you. Enjoy it while you can because things can change quickly in football. We ruined enough of your Christmas' so it's only fair you have a spell on top.

 

[StrangelyBrown]

O'Connor might have been, but I didn't have a clear view of it. Not buying the John Akinde's one from my view. Straight after that Thomas (who I thought had a great game considering the service) put an arm into the face of our defender but nothing was given as he didn't roll on the floor.

Found this on you tube- not a bad Vlog from a Town fan. 00:43 is a birds eye view of O'Connors challenge. I've seen them given as red all day long so maybe we were a little lucky!

 

[Waluigi]

When I first started going our big game was v Hull and now I'd doubt 80% of their fanbase know we exist so...

On the celeb ref, it amazed me he reached for his cards after whistling for EVERY foul, as if he was deciding on the way to the player if he was going to card him or not. Very odd.

 

[StrangelyBrown]

I wouldn't ever deny it's a fierce derby but it is a little lopsided, you've always cared a bit more about us than us you. Enjoy it while you can because things can change quickly in football. We ruined enough of your Christmas' so it's only fair you have a spell on top.

But, last season, the only time "fans" played handbags with each other was when we played Grimsby at home.

Luton, Coventry, Chesterfield, Mansfield, County- passed out with no more than a few verbals.

Grimsby turn up.......!

Imps vs Grimsby is the biggest football police operation we will have this season.

Maybe some Town fans don't see it as fierce rivalry but others definitely do- until we don't play each other and then it will fade away until we meet again.

 

[Clarkey_GTFC]

Fair enough, the fact we've only had each other to play for the past decade or so definitely intensifies it. I enjoy a derby as much as the next fan but throughout my life of supporting Grimsby I've never had strong feelings towards Lincoln as a club, those were always reserved for Scunthorpe and I know a lot of fans who feel the same, but of course I can't speak for the majority. Matter of the fact is we likely won't have a proper derby next season and a season isn't quite the same without one.

 

[StrangelyBrown]

Fair enough, the fact we've only had each other to play for the past decade or so definitely intensifies it. I enjoy a derby as much as the next fan but throughout my life of supporting Grimsby I've never had strong feelings towards Lincoln as a club, those were always reserved for Scunthorpe and I know a lot of fans who feel the same, but of course I can't speak for the majority. Matter of the fact is we likely won't have a proper derby next season and a season isn't quite the same without one.

I think that's the nub of it- when we aren't both vying for the same prize, I don't think we are bothered about each other too much. When we are in different leagues etc, it isn't as important. When we both want the same thing then it becomes a bit more local- plus we haven't crossed paths much over the last 20 years.

As for next season, well hopefully one of us will get Scunthorpe (either they get relegated or we go up) and after that, who knows.

 

[pontoonlew]

If any Lincoln fan says it isn’t a big derby for them (as they did when they were shite with 600 showing up at BP), I’ll point them kindly to Burnley away in the FA Cup and the day you won the conference. When, on arguably two of the biggest achievements in your history, the words ‘are you watching Grimsby Town’ echoed around both stadiums

 

[Waluigi]

No Lincoln fan would ever claim that Grimsby isn't, currently, the big derby game.

But as I say, when I started going it was Hull and Scunthorpe, but we've not played either in years. If we ended up in a league with them, those rivalries would be rekindled I'm sure. That's how it works at this level isn't it.

 

[wangle]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1086886330020364288

Edit: Looking at Vitals, it’s amazing how biased some Imps are towards the big decisions yesterday.

Bloody big jump from O'Connor though.

I actually couldn't see the offence from where I was sat, but looks like we might have got a tad lucky on that one.

We'd have still won with 10 anyway.

 

[Bottega Don]

From a Scunthorpe point of view I don't really see Lincoln as much of a rivalry. They've been below us for most of football supporting lifetime and they've just been another team really.

Grimsby, on the other hand, are a lot different. They've been below us too but I see them as our biggest rivals and a team I never want to do well.

I think that's a common view of Scunthorpe fans. None of us cared when Lincoln went up two years ago but when Grimsby were on the brink we were actively supporting Bristol Rovers/Forest Green whoever it was they were playing.

Lincoln are a bit too posh for us and Grimsby, the working class towns are the bigger rivalry.

 

[Gladders]

Scunthorpe are obviously our closet rivals, but are they really our rivals we have been in the same league only once since 1990 and only another 2 times in the 80s. That's 3 seasons in almost 40 years!

Obviously Lincoln was a very similar situation until 2004 but since then we have been in the same division nearly every year.

Now I don't want scunny to do as well as much as the next town fan but that is a very long time without playing each other!

Depends what you value more as a rivalry, distance or actually playing each other.