Sam Allardyce has left Palace?

[Skinner]

Happy?

I have absolutely no idea to be honest!

 

[Super_horns]

Bit of total football maybe?

Some contrast from the Big Sam way of playing..

Probably won't be afraid to give young players a go which Palace fans like to see.

 

[Skinner]

We didn't play turgid football under same to be fair, nor Pulis. Both brought out the best in our wingers and creative players.

 

[Dirk]

Bit of total football maybe?

Or total disaster. At Inter Mailand he lasted only 85 days.

Another Dutch coach in the PL. So how's the standing now between Dutch and Deutsch? 2-2 ?

 

[St. Juste]

As a football man myself I like his straight talking, no nonsense ways. As for "dinosaur" let's not forget that he was the first person in the football family to embrace sports science so readily ( criminally under reported tbh) . For me his misdemeanours can be filed under shenanigans and shouldn't be used to undermine his place in the football pantheon.

Missed this earlier.

You do realise Millan were doing when Allardyce was still playing, right?

Allardyce has no place on the football pantheon, shenanigans or otherwise, he just didn't achieve that much.

 

[Abertawe]

Missed this earlier.

You do realise Millan were doing when Allardyce was still playing, right?

Allardyce has no place on the football pantheon, shenanigans or otherwise, he just didn't achieve that much.

Why are you so bitter mate?

 

[St. Juste]

Why are you so bitter mate?

Er, about what?

I'm pretty opposed to corruption in football and I'm quite glad Allardyce will never been a manager in the game again. People like him most certainly tarnish the game.

 

[Stevencc]

That's a proud Welshman telling you that you are bitter about England there, St. Juste.

Have a look in the nearest mirror and give yourself a stern talking to before you go past the point of no return.

 

[Abertawe]

Er, about what?

I'm pretty opposed to corruption in football and I'm quite glad Allardyce will never been a manager in the game again. People like him most certainly tarnish the game.

Whenever I see you post it always follows the same pattern. It would be nice to see you contribute something that isn't a constant flow of tedious derision in an attempt to justify why you don't like something or someone. Spit out the lemons and try being positive.

 

[Liam_SWFC]

St Juste needs to get off the fence with his views on England.

 

[St. Juste]

That's a proud Welshman telling you that you are bitter about England there, St. Juste.

Have a look in the nearest mirror and give yourself a stern talking to before you go past the point of no return.

What on earth has this got to do with England? It's about criticising a man for his actions, it has nothing to do with nationality.

If your stance is that I shouldn't criticise anyone who happens to be English for the actions they undertake, it's quite a bizarre position. Am I not allowed to criticise Ian Brady either? Can't have any political views on Theresa May, that might be considered anti English.

Get a grip, either defend Allardyces actions or don't but accusations such as the above add nothing.

Whenever I see you post it always follows the same pattern. It would be nice to see you contribute something that isn't a constant flow of tedious derision in an attempt to justify why you don't like something or someone. Spit out the lemons and try being positive.

On the contrary, I think most of my posts are quite positive. Maybe you should read more.

 

[St. Juste]

St Juste needs to get off the fence with his views on England.

Well I'm not allowed to have any views on people that happen to be English, so that might be difficult.

I'm a big fan of the Rolling Stones, does that cancel out my criticism of Sam Allardyces actions during his life? There are quite a few members of the Rolling Stones - I think it must heavily outweigh it to be honest.

I'm now pro English again apparently.

 

[Stevencc]

What on earth has this got to do with England? It's about criticising a man for his actions, it has nothing to do with nationality.

If your stance is that I shouldn't criticise anyone who happens to be English for the actions they undertake, it's quite a bizarre position. Am I not allowed to criticise Ian Brady either? Can't have any political views on Theresa May, that might be considered anti English.

Get a grip, either defend Allardyces actions or don't but accusations such as the above add nothing.




On the contrary, I think most of my posts are quite positive. Maybe you should read more.

Everything you've ever commented on is either a plain or thinly-veiled comment on the English national team, English footballers or English football in general. You are a man obsessed.

The actual topic at hand doesn't seem to matter as you'll always slot comfortably into the predictable anti-English position.

I'd also love to see a breakdown of how many times per post you use the words England or English, your total will be head and shoulders above any other poster on the forum.

 

[St. Juste]

Everything you've ever commented on is either a plain or thinly-veiled comment on the English national team, English footballers or English football in general. You are a man obsessed.

The actual topic at hand doesn't seem to matter as you'll always slot comfortably into the predictable anti-English position.

I'd also love to see a breakdown of how many times per post you use the words England or English, your total will be head and shoulders above any other poster on the forum.

That's demonstrably not the case, unless my posts on the Scottish section and the Politics section are also somehow tied to English football?

If there is anyone here with obsession it will be yourself, you can either address the content of a post or tie it to some pre conceived view you have of what it is really about.

This is an English football forum, English football will come up quite often, I am as entitled to comment on it as anyone else. However, to state Sam Allardyce is corrupt and to criticise his actions is not anti English - he was sacked by the FA for corruption. My statement is one that is entirely true and accurate, irrespective of his nationality.

The conspiracy theory you are purporting it not only clearly inaccurate, but also quite boring.

 

[Stevencc]

That's demonstrably not the case, unless my posts on the Scottish section and the Politics section are also somehow tied to English football?

If there is anyone here with obsession it will be yourself, you can either address the content of a post or tie it to some pre conceived view you have of what it is really about.

This is an English football forum, English football will come up quite often, I am as entitled to comment on it as anyone else. However, to state Sam Allardyce is corrupt and to criticise his actions is not anti English - he was sacked by the FA for corruption. My statement is one that is entirely true and accurate, irrespective of his nationality.

The conspiracy theory you are purporting it not only clearly inaccurate, but also quite boring.

Sorry, my mistake - 99% of your posts are either a plain or thinly-veiled comment on the English national team, English footballers or English football in general. I did you a massive disservice there.

As for my obsession, I'm not the only one that has noticed your bizarre compulsions - as evidenced by numerous comments on the nature of your posts from separate users.

At first, I thought you were a pretty funny parody account but I don't think anyone would commit as much time and effort as you have to something like that.

 

[St. Juste]

Sorry, my mistake - 99% of your posts are either a plain or thinly-veiled comment on the English national team, English footballers or English football in general. I did you a massive disservice there.

As for my obsession, I'm not the only one that has noticed your bizarre compulsions - as evidenced by numerous comments on the nature of your posts from separate users.

At first, I thought you were a pretty funny parody account but I don't think anyone would commit as much time and effort as you have to something like that.

Well, I clearly make more than 1% in my posts elsewhere on the forum.

I can't say I have noticed this, but simply repeating something inaccurate doesn't make it any more accurate. The evidence demonstrates I do not follow the pattern you are suggesting.

Honestly, I don't even know why I'm engaging with this. What are you even trying to achieve exactly? Why would I, or anyone else, care?

If it bothers you that much don't read or respond to my posts.

 

[Stevencc]

I'm trying to help you through this situation, obsessions are never good for one's health.

We'll work through this...together.

 

[Bilo]

Well, I clearly make more than 1% in my posts elsewhere on the forum.

I can't say I have noticed this, but simply repeating something inaccurate doesn't make it any more accurate. The evidence demonstrates I do not follow the pattern you are suggesting.

Honestly, I don't even know why I'm engaging with this. What are you even trying to achieve exactly? Why would I, or anyone else, care?

If it bothers you that much don't read or respond to my posts.

How is it even possible to take yourself this seriously?

You're anti-England, it's obvious as fuck and nobody but yourself would ever disagree.

 

[JimJams]

And that from a filthy Swede.

 

[Stevencc]

Ouch Bilo, and that's from a dirty ape.

 

[St. Juste]

You're anti-England, it's obvious as fuck and nobody but yourself would ever disagree.

How would this even manifest itself? I used to live in England, Reading specifically, it was quite nice.

I have more than a few family members and good friends who are English.

Do I take a different viewpoint on English football to those who are indoctrinated by the media coverage that surrounds it? I would hope so. Am I foaming at the mouth in my hatred of things English? Not at all.

As I said on this forum before, you couldn't live in mainstream Scottish society if you did. The largest immigrant group in Scotland, by far, is English people.

 

[Stevencc]

"I'm not racist in the slightest, I even have friends that are black".

 

[Pagnell]

......simply repeating something inaccurate doesn't make it any more accurate..

Wait, you just posted that?

 

[SALTIRE]

I think its rather profound, just like having higher populations in football automatically makes you more successful.

 

[Kopper]

Well, no he's not, he lost his most high profile job for his dodgy dealings. And that is just what we are aware of.

Both him, Redknapp and many others have polluted football for a long time. It's great that these dinosaurs are finally being phased out and I have little doubt that in 20 years or so the full manner of their misdeeds will become apparent.

Allardyce calling diving rubbish was sadly an indication that he intends to go into punditry - to promote "technology" was a brief Sky gave him. How depressing. I wonder what company he thinks should provide the "technology".

The perception of what he did seems wrong but the actual practice isn't. Same goes for Redknapp.
If a manager buys a player and uses an agent known to him, (relative or similar) who creams a little off the transfer fee and slides it the manager's way. How is this any different to an elected official on a government committee, steering a procurement contract to a company whose CEO has promised him a lucrative job once he leaves office?
It's common practice in business and football is partly a business.

 

[St. Juste]

The perception of what he did seems wrong but the actual practice isn't. Same goes for Redknapp.
If a manager buys a player and uses an agent known to him, (relative or similar) who creams a little off the transfer fee and slides it the manager's way. How is this any different to an elected official on a government committee, steering a procurement contract to a company whose CEO has promised him a lucrative job once he leaves office?
It's common practice in business and football is partly a business.

The outcome of tenders should not be influenced by one person, any private or public sector organisation will have robust processes and procedures to prevent that taking place.

You'd have to be a bit amateurish to not do so, which, in the area of business anyway, football clubs generally are.

You won't see people like Redknapp or Allardyce scheming and bribing in the nuclear industry, for example.

 

[Kyle Hatch]

so your saying that the chinese and french haven't creamed a little off the top at hinkley. as someone who works in that industry i can tell you, that your right. They've creamed a fuck load off the top, middle and bottom. its one of the worst deals in the sector. business is business everyone is stealing from the people.

 

[St. Juste]

so your saying that the chinese and french haven't creamed a little off the top at hinkley. as someone who works in that industry i can tell you, that your right. They've creamed a fuck load off the top, middle and bottom. its one of the worst deals in the sector. business is business everyone is stealing from the people.

I think it's universally accepted what a terrible project Hinkley is, but your assertion that all big procurement contracts are influenced by individuals (or even groups of individuals) doesn't really stack up. There is significant processes and procedures to prevent this kind of thing, Allardyce and Redknapp exist in football but their equivalents won't exist in many other industries any more.

 

[Kyle Hatch]

so i give an example, something from your other posts your big on, then dismiss it cos it doesn't stack up with your opinion. Seems completely pointless providing evidence to you, you’re as single minded as those who criticise Scottish leagues in the other thread. Big contracts in this countries, are almost exclusively crap, southern rail, hs2/3, nhs contracts, banks, someone, somewhere is making a shit load, while crapping on the people.

If you are blinded enough to believe that harry rednapp doesn't exist in other industries such as nuclear, then i want to work in whatever industry you work in, it's either perfect or you can be ambivalent enough that it doesn't affect you.

 

[St. Juste]

so i give an example, something from your other posts your big on, then dismiss it cos it doesn't stack up with your opinion. Seems completely pointless providing evidence to you, you’re as single minded as those who criticise Scottish leagues in the other thread. Big contracts in this countries, are almost exclusively crap, southern rail, hs2/3, nhs contracts, banks, someone, somewhere is making a shit load, while crapping on the people.

If you are blinded enough to believe that harry rednapp doesn't exist in other industries such as nuclear, then i want to work in whatever industry you work in, it's either perfect or you can be ambivalent enough that it doesn't affect you.

Football is a hobby, procurement is a business - I know exactly how it is done, across many countries. In a private capacity, even whilst working in Brazil at the height of 'Lava Jato' I have never seen any one person influence a major procurement contract. Given the amount of people involved, and the depth of processes required, some Redknapp-esque amateur trying to steer a major contract to one company would be laughed out the room, before being sacked.

As for making lots of money - obviously. That would need to be the case for any large contract, if would be far more concerning if they had low profit margins, or were losing. But that's not indicative of corruption, at all.

I've never worked on Hinkely Point, nor in the Nuclear Industry at all. Given it's an established multi billion dollar industry - as opposed to football which is relatively chummy and tin point - if you have evidence of what you are saying then go to the Police, go to the Media. You could make a fortune, and expose some serious corruption.

Don't complain about it, act on it - I wouldn't hesitate to do the same.