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Stickied Spanish Football

Discussion in 'Worldwide Domestic Football' started by HarvSFC, Jan 18, 2015.

  1. SALTIRE

    SALTIRE Slàinte mhath! Staff Member Moderator Site Supporter

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    Yeah the league is done. Real will win their second title in 8 or 9 years. Barca will have to concentrate on the Copa del Rey as I see Juve beating them in the CL.
     
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  3. SALTIRE

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    Can't really disagree surely, Barca are too inconsistent.
     
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    Perhaps but Real aren't that far ahead and aren't immune to the odd shocker (3-3 vs Las Palmas, losing at Valencia). This ain't over.
     
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    Real Madrid are the first team ever from the top five leagues to score in 62 consecutive games in all competitions.
     
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    Looks like that Sergio Ramos injury time equaliser at the nou camp could well have won Real Madrid the league.
     
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    He has to go down as the best defender of this era. While he isn't quite the best defender in the world, there's no centre back you'd rather have in your team. He's so incredibly vital.
     
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    Not in a million fucking years. The best defender of the era should probably be a great defender first and foremost.
     
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    He is a great defender, just not the greatest. Say one centre back in the world you'd rather have in your team?
     
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    Bonucci, Thiago Silva, Godin, Chiellini... there are loads. His disciplinary record is an embarrassment. But for the important goals he scores and the team he plays for he wouldn't even be in the discussion.
     
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    This can't be overlooked as a "he does that well". His goals alone have been instrumental for Real in more titles than I can bother to count.

    First of all Silva, is overrated and I haven't ever rated him as one of the top, top defenders of this generation. Godin and Chiellini are two fantastic defenders, but partially because of his importance in big games I'd have Ramos above the two. Bonucci is the only one I'd agree is debatable, but even then I'd rather have Ramos in a world cup final than I'd want Bonucci.
     
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    This, ladies and gentlemen, is how you invalidate your point before you've even made it.
     
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    To hold Thiago Silva over Sergio Ramos is almost as outdated as saying Marcelo is iffy defensively. It might have been briefly true at some point but at this moment in time it's hard to imagine that it ever was.

    Anyway, it's not a controversial opinion to hold that Silva is overrated, it's quite mainstream if anything nowadays (for those who still care). So perhaps I should say that he was overrated, he very rarely gets mentioned in this context nowadays and rightly so. I've watched him almost exclusively in the Champions League and for Brazil, and I did for a long while think I just hadn't seen enough considering how highly rated he was but he's 31 now. He's still giving the ball away needlessly a lot and he still gets beaten in the air regularly, at a genuine "target that guy if you're tall" frequency when he's having a poor game, which isn't as extremely rare as you'd expect at his level. He was always very good but he wouldn't get anywhere near replacing either Ramos or Bonucci in a starting XI, and I'm struggling to think of a single tangible argument as to why he ever would to be completely honest. Silva's just a very good defender, that's it, to have him anywhere near a defender of an era-discussion is frankly ridiculous.
     
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    Madrid's title now?
     
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    Sorry EG but I'll have to go Bilo's way on this one. I'd rather have SG than TS in my team at this moment in time. He didn't play in the 1st leg against Barcelona (the one which we won 4-0) and we were fine at the back (helped by midfield superiority (no Rakitic for Barca)) and he was awful in the 2nd leg. This was typically a game where we needed a cool, experienced head to calm down the young boys in a rocking and electric Nou Camp and he didn't deliver. This basically proves that Bonucci and Chiellini are better defenders at least.
    However, on a purely defensive record Sergio Ramos is questionable. I must say, I don't pay much attention to his individual performance when watching RM because they are always pillaging La Liga sides left, right and centre. Marcelo is certainly more impressive but it's easier to get forward from open play when you're a full-back.
    Godin is another fine example but I think he's past his peak. He had a ridiculously good 2013/14 season and the World Cup after that but I think his performances have mildly dropped since.
     
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    Messi was superb last night for Barca's cup triumph.
     
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    Expect Barca to sign Verratti and Real to get Mbappé this summer.
     
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    Just watching Villarreal vs Real Betis. Your typical La Liga game, build up and passing, decent watch so far. Like Bacca and Bakambu as a partnership up top.
     

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