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wonder how long Coleman will last?

Reckon Hursty boy will get this

¥*snigger*
 

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Welcome to Sunderland looking forward to visiting the stadium of light (assuming we stay up)
 

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wonder how long Coleman will last?

Reckon Hursty boy will get this

¥*snigger*
The club is in turmoil and up for sale, and best avoided by any manager in work.

I could see Mick Macarthy going there though.
 

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The club is in turmoil and up for sale, and best avoided by any manager in work.

I could see Mick Macarthy going there though.
They will walk this division next year. Blackburn and Wigan far smaller clubs ‘in turmoil’ but both found it easy.
 

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Especially with a £35m parachute payment!
 

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They will walk this division next year. Blackburn and Wigan far smaller clubs ‘in turmoil’ but both found it easy.

Agreed. I wonder if the crowds will return when they start winning or will they only fully return if they get back to the Premier League.
 

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If they’re doing well they’ll get the crowds no doubt. Can see them bringing 4000 to ours if we can give them the tickets.
 

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Agreed. I wonder if the crowds will return when they start winning or will they only fully return if they get back to the Premier League.

nah they are all Liverpool or Man United fans now for a few years
 

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It won't be plain sailing and doubt we will walk it. A lot of changes will be made with the big earners and the dead wood going and even the players the manager wants to keep will have their price. Even with the parachute payments we only spent £1.3 million this season so we won't be splashing the cash. To be honest not sure how we will do.
 

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Well Sunderland are a bigger club than the likes of Bolton, Southampton, Norwich, Wolves, Blackburn and Wigan who, Wigan excluded, all had on and off pitch issues... all pissed the league at the first attempt.

On the other hand you’ve got Leeds, Sheffield Wednesday and Sheffield United who took a few attempts to get promoted.
 

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It won't be plain sailing and doubt we will walk it. A lot of changes will be made with the big earners and the dead wood going and even the players the manager wants to keep will have their price. Even with the parachute payments we only spent £1.3 million this season so we won't be splashing the cash. To be honest not sure how we will do.

You’ll be surprised at the gulf between the leagues, every lower league player and quite a few better than that will want to play for you and you’ll have more money than vast majority of teams. I just can’t envisage you not doing well. Understandable that you’re feeling gloomy though.
 

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Even Leeds would have gone up first time if they didn’t start with -15 points, didn’t Southampton also have points deducted?

L1 seems to be where most of the big clubs bottom out... and most return much stronger than when they first came into the league.
 

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Providing we stay up you can look forward to 6 points against us next season, think we quickly need to build a new stand to accomodate all you wearsiders, your a club with a wonderful heritage and some of it should rub off in league 1 !!
 

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Providing we stay up you can look forward to 6 points against us next season, think we quickly need to build a new stand to accomodate all you wearsiders, your a club with a wonderful heritage and some of it should rub off in league 1 !!
You’re already safe
 

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Yeah I'm probably been a bit gloomy but dear me there's a lot of negativity hanging over the club. To be honest looking forward to next season.
 

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My boss is a Sunderland season ticket holder, one fixture I'm looking forward to next season, just please don't let us have to go there on a Tuesday night or mid week on TV like with Blackburn.
 

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Biggest budget of all time in the 3rd tier. The first club to drop down from the Premier League to the 3rd tier whilst still recieving parachute payments since the new TV deal.

Us and Blackburn were too strong and that was without any parachute money. We'll make a loss of 2-3m. Suspect Blackburn will make a loss of 10-15m.
 

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Hello Sunderland, possibly the biggest club to 'grace' L1 for while.

Enjoy our 900 away allocation in downtown Kingston-upon-Thames (providing we stay up).
 

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I think Leeds & Saints both had 2 seasons down here, but only because of their massive points deductions.

Welcome Sunderland! There's a big difference in standards, which i'm sure you'll notice. I'll be expecting you to go up as champions that's for sure.

But hey ho, you never know - a relegation can sometimes be good for you. It served us excellently as we restructured the club, got rid of the dead wood and before you know it, had a double promotion
 

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Im sure Sunderland fans will be waiting excitedly for next seasons fixture list to see when they get the BIG away days at Wimbledon, Accrington & Fleetwood. Good luck getting a ticket.
 

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Easily. 86 years in the top flight compared to Wolves 63... 6 time top flight winners compared to Wolves 3.

They’ve averaged less than 30k twice since 1997... Wolves haven’t averaged 30k since 1970.

If Sunderland start winning regularly next season they might be getting crowds of around 30,000 and I expect they will sell out every away game.
 

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Easily. 86 years in the top flight compared to Wolves 63... 6 time top flight winners compared to Wolves 3.

They’ve averaged less than 30k twice since 1997... Wolves haven’t averaged 30k since 1970.

If Sunderland start winning regularly next season they might be getting crowds of around 30,000 and I expect they will sell out every away game.

Wolves are famous for being the reason the Champions League/European Cup was created (a certain game vs Honved in 1954).

Remind what what are Sunderland famous for? Won a few trophies before WWII?
 

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Wolves are famous for being the reason the Champions League/European Cup was created (a certain game vs Honved in 1954).

Remind what what are Sunderland famous for? Won a few trophies before WWII?
Clearly Wolves new investment has gone to your head.

Sunderland are a bigger club than Wolves any day of the week.
 

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Clearly Wolves new investment has gone to your head.

Sunderland are a bigger club than Wolves any day of the week.

I refer you back to my previous quote, Behave.

Sunderland had won 5 of their 6 Championships before WWI, and the other before WWII. By that logic Preston are just as big as Tottenham, both won 2 Championships :rolleyes:
 

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I refer you back to my previous quote, Behave.

Sunderland had won 5 of their 6 Championships before WWI, and the other before WWII. By that logic Preston are just as big as Tottenham, both won 2 Championships :rolleyes:
Preston clearly not as big as Tottenham due to:

- PL years
- Tottenham regular European appearances
- Fanbase

Sunderland have spent more time in the top tier and have a larger fanbase than Wolves.
 

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Larger stadium yes, larger fanbase? I'd say no.
Wolves have only started selling out Molineux in the last 4 home games or so... Molineux holds 31,700 of which 28,000 are for home fans. Sunderland have been averaging 40k+ and 35k in the second tier regularly...
 

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Wolves have only started selling out Molineux in the last 4 home games or so... Molineux holds 31,700 of which 28,000 are for home fans. Sunderland have been averaging 40k+ and 35k in the second tier regularly...

We have sold out nearly every game this season. If our Stadium had the capacity we'd have 50k home fans there on Saturday, such is the demand. Has Sunderland ever taken 70k away fans to Old Trafford?
 

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