Stickied League 2 Away Support Thread 2023/24

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Sounds like the concept of matching the seat number on a ticket to a seat was a step too far for some Grimsby fans....
 

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They jusy expected everyone to sit in their allocated seat which was never going to happen, so some stood at the barrier at the front. Everything was fine then they decide to try and make people sit down or go find their seat, needless to say this just led to problems when there wasn't any in the first place.

If they wanted people to sit in a certain seat they should limit the capacity to a thousand or something instead of happily taking another 300 ticket sales.

Or you could've just gone to your allocated seat. Crazy concept I know.
 

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Or you could've just gone to your allocated seat. Crazy concept I know.

I did! Try telling that the hundred that don't, as I said everything was fine till the stewards tried moving people. Maybe if they left them alone to watch the game everything would have carried on being fine. Crazy I know to treat people as human beings instead of hooligans but then I guess stewards have to justify their jobs some how.

The sooner safe standing is brought in the better
 

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A lot of people buy tickets individually - no one wants to sit on their own for the whole game you wanna sit with your mates. I'd say the majority of supporters don't sit in their allocated seat when travelling away, and it's never usually an issue until the stewards make it one as above
 

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A lot of people buy tickets individually - no one wants to sit on their own for the whole game you wanna sit with your mates. I'd say the majority of supporters don't sit in their allocated seat when travelling away, and it's never usually an issue until the stewards make it one as above
I can't remember the last away game I went to where I actually sat down, even my 10 year old with his little legs prefers standing all game, just sitting down at half time.
 

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And every one person who insists on standing forces numerous others who would prefer to sit, to stand as well. Why don't the people who have to stand for whatever reason get in to the ground early, and grab the back few rows? It seems to be the case that at most away games a group/s of standers arrive bang on kick-off, or later, and stand in the middle, causing annoyance to plenty who arrived early.

For the record, I don't mind whether I sit or stand, but plenty of others do mind, or perhaps have to sit for various reasons, ill health perhaps, or children who can't see if people are standing.

Rant over.
 

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997 Cambridge at Luton, most of whom I guess will have been standing as they will have been very uncomfortable if they have tried to sit for long in the Oak Road seats! Couldn't really tell from the other end.
 

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And every one person who insists on standing forces numerous others who would prefer to sit, to stand as well. Why don't the people who have to stand for whatever reason get in to the ground early, and grab the back few rows? It seems to be the case that at most away games a group/s of standers arrive bang on kick-off, or later, and stand in the middle, causing annoyance to plenty who arrived early.

For the record, I don't mind whether I sit or stand, but plenty of others do mind, or perhaps have to sit for various reasons, ill health perhaps, or children who can't see if people are standing.

Rant over.

The people you're referring to tend to turn up right at the last minute because they've been in the pub until that time, and then turn up and expect everyone to comply with what they want. It's always the same, but what can you do about it? I feel sorry for anyone who has to steward an away end!
 

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And every one person who insists on standing forces numerous others who would prefer to sit, to stand as well. Why don't the people who have to stand for whatever reason get in to the ground early, and grab the back few rows? It seems to be the case that at most away games a group/s of standers arrive bang on kick-off, or later, and stand in the middle, causing annoyance to plenty who arrived early.

For the record, I don't mind whether I sit or stand, but plenty of others do mind, or perhaps have to sit for various reasons, ill health perhaps, or children who can't see if people are standing.

Rant over.

The people you're referring to tend to turn up right at the last minute because they've been in the pub until that time, and then turn up and expect everyone to comply with what they want. It's always the same, but what can you do about it? I feel sorry for anyone who has to steward an away end!
I'm not trying to say here that people being forced to stand who would prefer to sit is right or anything and if people behind you ask you to sit down so they can see then you should, but the majority of our fans definitely prefer standing rather than sitting.
As an example last season at Halifax there was standing or sitting, same price through same turnstiles you just picked one when you went in and out of 1700+ fans there I would estimate around 100 - 150 chose the seats.
 

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Get the above points but if you want to sit down why pop yourself in the back row when you know full well that's where the late arrivals that will stand will go?

Swings and roundabouts. I hate sitting down. Defeats atmosphere also. Cardiff's old away section at NP was genius. Seats at the front, terracing at the back. Follow that metric and you're on a winner.
 

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I prefer standing but it's hard to argue against Djs' argument. Could be ill health or whatever, the fact is that some people prefer to sit but can't only because the late arrivals are almost always those ones who prefer to stand. Obviously, the late arrivals also act like they own the ground and can do as they please, so who cares whether they're forcing everyone else to stand as well.
 

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I did! Try telling that the hundred that don't, as I said everything was fine till the stewards tried moving people. Maybe if they left them alone to watch the game everything would have carried on being fine. Crazy I know to treat people as human beings instead of hooligans but then I guess stewards have to justify their jobs some how.

The sooner safe standing is brought in the better
This...
I have a health condition which means I'm more comfortable standing - I have a standing desk at work now; people should be allowed to stand if they wish and those that want to sit should have their own allocated section. People sit far too much anyway. If you can stand, you should...
 

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This...
I have a health condition which means I'm more comfortable standing - I have a standing desk at work now; people should be allowed to stand if they wish and those that want to sit should have their own allocated section. People sit far too much anyway. If you can stand, you should...

Such as an all-seater stand you mean? Interesting....
 

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Such as an all-seater stand you mean? Interesting....
You have to get used to the Lincs contrariness...

...and we used to have a football ground that had a capacity of circa 30,000 with about 2,500 seats, even in 1979 it was 24k with 2.5k seats. Seats were a luxury - for the directors and spouses, gentlemen farmers, trawler and freight owners, every other fecker stood to watch their football.
 

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No-one sits in their allocated seats, ever.

Safe standing should be reintroduced without a about. What happened at hillsborough blah blah blah will never be forgotten and rightfully so, but this is 26 years or so down the line and things have changed across the board from crowd trouble to safety standards to the quality of the grounds (barring Luton!) our away end for instance could easily hold 2,000 standing - or as others have said seating at the front and standing at the back.
 

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No-one sits in their allocated seats, ever.

Safe standing should be reintroduced without a about. What happened at hillsborough blah blah blah will never be forgotten and rightfully so, but this is 26 years or so down the line and things have changed across the board from crowd trouble to safety standards to the quality of the grounds (barring Luton!) our away end for instance could easily hold 2,000 standing - or as others have said seating at the front and standing at the back.

I do! Not always though, but if I know the area is as good as a sell out as it was on Saturday, I will and always do.

Rumour has it though is that the stewards on Saturday allowed people in the away end on the day and there were more people in the stand than there were seats. Poor organisation by Stevenage really as they knew how many fans we were bringing but only had 2 tunstiles open at the away end and EVERY supporter was subject to a thorough search before entering the ground.
 

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Don't assume that, because people do.

That's good for them....

I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but I've never seen it happen with away followings to Mansfield when it sells out. We took 3,400 to Notts county and they had to open the bottom sections as people didn't sit in their seat.

It's never me as I only get to the game with about 5 minutes to go.

If you're old, disabled, short or got a kid, sit at the front. Im not saying that scenario is correct or accurate, it's just what happens. You're telling me if gillingham take a good away following for you guys? Presumably 500? That every fan would sit where they were allocated. If you all do, I'll doff my hat (if I had one) to you all

I had that at county where someone behind me asked me to sit down as he and his kid couldn't see - but unfortunately the front 20 rows of whatever were all stood up and so did I.

I'm not saying it's big or clever or advocating it, it just is.
 

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That's good for them....

I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but I've never seen it happen with away followings to Mansfield when it sells out. We took 3,400 to Notts county and they had to open the bottom sections as people didn't sit in their seat.

It's never me as I only get to the game with about 5 minutes to go.

If you're old, disabled, short or got a kid, sit at the front. Im not saying that scenario is correct or accurate, it's just what happens. You're telling me if gillingham take a good away following for you guys? Presumably 500? That every fan would sit where they were allocated. If you all do, I'll doff my hat (if I had one) to you all

I had that at county where someone behind me asked me to sit down as he and his kid couldn't see - but unfortunately the front 20 rows of whatever were all stood up and so did I.

I'm not saying it's big or clever or advocating it, it just is.

Despite your thinly veiled attempt to undermine my club, I will give you an answer. Your comment was that 'no-one sits in their allocated seats, ever', which is absolutely not correct. Of your following to Notts County, are you suggesting to me that not one of your fans was in the seat allocated by their ticket?

Anyway, this isn't really the main point of this discussion anyway, which is more about the idea that there are fans who believe they have a divine right to behave however they want without needing to care about their fellow supporters. You might say that 'it is what it is', and you might have a point - doesn't mean that you can't go against the grain and do what is right on a personal level.
 

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People who wanna stand and people who wanna sit can live together in perfect harmony if the people who wanna sit head towards the front and the people who wanna stand head towards the back, as is the norm

If I pay £25 for a ticket and I wanna stand then I'm gonna stand.
 

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People who wanna stand and people who wanna sit can live together in perfect harmony if the people who wanna sit head towards the front and the people who wanna stand head towards the back, as is the norm

If I pay £25 for a ticket and I wanna stand then I'm gonna stand.

That's pretty much what the suggestion was at county - it doesn't have to be them as an example - just the most recent away game I went to - sit down at the front and stand st the back.
 

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