September - Manager and Player Of The Month

[JJH]

Nominations:

Benitez, Stam, Carvahal, Neil

Duffy, Hogan, Murphy, Abraham

Neil and Murphy for me.

 

[markwwfc1992]

Shane Duffy, from 3 own goals to player of the month candidate

Anyway, not sure about the manager, probably Carvahal. Player has to be Tammy Abraham.

 

[SF_]

Benitez & Hogan

 

[Six pints of STELLA]

Seems Newcastle, Sheffield Wednesday, Reading and Norwich had similar records in September:

Newcastle : W3 D1 L1 (and a win in the League Cup)
Sheffield Wednesday: W4 L1
Reading: W3 D1 L1 (and a win in the League Cup)
Norwich: W4 L1 (and a win in the League Cup)

On that basis I would give it to Carvahal. Anyone going for Benitez over Stam needs their head testing.

 

[SF_]

On that basis I would give it to Carvahal. Anyone going for Benitez over Stam needs their head testing.

Why? Newcastle beat their main rivals for the title last month and smashed a side 6-0 away from home.

 

[JonBCFC]

Neil and Tammy.

 

[Six pints of STELLA]

Why? Newcastle beat their main rivals for the title last month and smashed a side 6-0 away from home.

Main rivals fair enough.

6-0 so what? QPR gave up, some of the goals conceded were shocking.

 

[SF_]

Main rivals fair enough.

6-0 so what? QPR gave up, some of the goals conceded were shocking.

It's a results business and September has left Newcastle in a great position, regardless of how their goals are scored.

and before you start reeling off a summary of each of Reading's games.... I don't care.

Go have a STELLA.

 

[Magic]

Gazza Monk and Pontus Jansson. Cheers.

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[MagpieBee]

Stam for manager for me I think.

Hogan's been brilliant this month, but I would probably have said Woods has been better for us, just doesn't get the goals.

Abraham has also been great of late, would say it's between those two for the POTM. Got to admit I called it wrong with Abraham, saw him play a few times last season and while he was scoring lots of goals, the defences at that level were terrible and I didn't think he'd be able to pick up his levels of performance. Definitely called that one wrong.

 

[hodge]

Would like to see Tammy win the POTM award however I don't think we could argue too much if Hogan wins, both are in incredible form.

 

[markwwfc1992]

Surprised Reading are doing well, they were absolutely shocking at Molineux. Worst team I've seen us play in a long time.

2-0 down and they just passed it around their defenders for the majority of the game.

 

[Six pints of STELLA]

Surprised Reading are doing well, they were absolutely shocking at Molineux. Worst team I've seen us play in a long time.

2-0 down and they just passed it around their defenders for the majority of the game.

Yes, I wasn't there, but apparently it was very bad. After that a lot of fans were worried about relegation.

 

[JLK]

Surprised Reading are doing well, they were absolutely shocking at Molineux. Worst team I've seen us play in a long time.

2-0 down and they just passed it around their defenders for the majority of the game.

What confuses me is that we (Brentford and Reading) have identical records last month in terms of points, but we scored 13 goals to their 7, conceded 5 goals to their 7 and spanked them 4-1 just last week. How did Stam get nominated ahead of Smith?

 

[MagpieBee]

What confuses me is that we (Brentford and Reading) have identical records last month in terms of points, but we scored 13 goals to their 7, conceded 5 goals to their 7 and spanked them 4-1 just last week. How did Stam get nominated ahead of Smith?

Yeah, I was a little confused by that... I guess they had struggled a bit before then so he maybe gets points for a change in fortunes?

 

[MagpieBee]

What confuses me is that we (Brentford and Reading) have identical records last month in terms of points, but we scored 13 goals to their 7, conceded 5 goals to their 7 and spanked them 4-1 just last week. How did Stam get nominated ahead of Smith?

Nice to see a new Bees fan as well, welcome!

 

[JJH]

Neil & Hogan won it. Poor Tammy.

 

[Madejski]

What confuses me is that we (Brentford and Reading) have identical records last month in terms of points, but we scored 13 goals to their 7, conceded 5 goals to their 7 and spanked them 4-1 just last week. How did Stam get nominated ahead of Smith?

Relative success.

Reading have finished 17th and 19th the past two seasons and before the season started anything but bottom 3 would have been OK. Brentford have finished 9th and 5th. We've got a worse team with lower expectations, yet still managed to pick up the same amount of points. We also had a very tough month of fixtures playing many inform teams, including beating top of the table Huddersfield. September finished with our best start to a season in 10 years.

Manager of the month shouldn't just automatically go to the manager whose team picks up the most points in that month. Other factors should be included.

Thankfully Stam did not win it, do not want the curse hanging over us. Last time a Reading manager won the Manager award, he was sacked 5 weeks later.

 

[JLK]

Considering the resources of the 2 clubs I'd say that our relative success is much higher than yours, you've outbid us for 2 players in the last 2 transfer windows (Swift and Evans). If you've got lower expectations than us then that's a bit worrying for Reading, and going from under-achieving in the last two seasons to meeting expectations in this one is hardly going to be a factor in the manager of the month competition, otherwise it would have gone to Di Matteo.

I'd suspect it was based on your win against (10-man) Huddersfield.

 

[mpmbee]

Well deserved.

 

[TomPNE94]

The goals against us shouldn't count the defending was so bad

 

[mpmbee]

The goals against us shouldn't count the defending was so bad

The hat-trick goal was a superb team goal from our perspective tbf.

 

[TomPNE94]

The hat-trick goal was a superb team goal from our perspective tbf.

Made very easy by every player having about 3 miles of space

 

[Haillay7]

Benitez was awarded the LMA performance of the week twice for the 6-0 against QPR and the 4-3 against Norwich so he got his dues but I think we would have been expected to beat Villa and Rotherham by a bigger margin. For me, it's understandable that he didn't win overall.

Oh and to dismiss the 6-0 as nothing because QPR had given up flirts with being a farce.It was QPR's worst home defeat in their history and our best away win in 60+ years. It'll arguably be the biggest winning margin in the division this year.

 

[Madejski]

Considering the resources of the 2 clubs I'd say that our relative success is much higher than yours, you've outbid us for 2 players in the last 2 transfer windows (Swift and Evans). If you've got lower expectations than us then that's a bit worrying for Reading, and going from under-achieving in the last two seasons to meeting expectations in this one is hardly going to be a factor in the manager of the month competition, otherwise it would have gone to Di Matteo.

I'd suspect it was based on your win against (10-man) Huddersfield.

We're hardly high in resources now, and you are one of the few clubs in the league we could outbid (though why would Swift join Brentford over Reading when Brentford fans hated him?). I think our signings in the Summer prove this with lots of low cost foreign players / free transfers. Despite bringing in £7m+ in sales. We also almost entered administration less than 3 years ago.

We've got lower expectations as we're on the way down, you're on a high.. Things like this happen in football. If finishing positions/expectations were based purely on club stature and resources it would be a very boring game.

We played what was then the top 3 at the beginning of September and got 7 points. Plenty of reasons for Stam to have been nominated. I'm not sure why you care so much that Stam was picked over Smith, neither was going to win anyway..

 

[JLK]

We're hardly high in resources now, and you are one of the few clubs in the league we could outbid (though why would Swift join Brentford over Reading when Brentford fans hated him?). I think our signings in the Summer prove this with lots of low cost foreign players / free transfers. Despite bringing in £7m+ in sales. We also almost entered administration less than 3 years ago.

We've got lower expectations as we're on the way down, you're on a high.. Things like this happen in football. If finishing positions/expectations were based purely on club stature and resources it would be a very boring game.

We played what was then the top 3 at the beginning of September and got 7 points. Plenty of reasons for Stam to have been nominated. I'm not sure why you care so much that Stam was picked over Smith, neither was going to win anyway..

I'm confused about the criteria they've used to choose the manager of the month and I disagree with your explanation but I'm not losing any sleep over it. No need to try and be patronising.

Reading, like most clubs in the league, have a massive advantage over us with your resources. You should not underestimate how much work has to go on at clubs like ours to overcome this and just survive in this division.