Hypothetical question

[Benladdie3000]

Hey guys.

If the premier league was expanded to 22 , to accommodate Celtic and rangers, in their first season Down here where do you think they would finish. And where do you rate them in terms of size of club in relation to the big 5

 

[Vanni]

Well my top 5 w/o Celtic and Rangers would be -
Liverpool - Newcastle - Arsenal - Man U - Leeds.
So that would then change to -
Liverpool - Newcastle - Arsenal - Rangers - Celtic.

Only my opinion Steven so chill bro.

 

[Benladdie3000]

Well my top 5 w/o Celtic and Rangers would be -
Liverpool - Newcastle - Arsenal - Man U - Leeds.
So that would then change to -
Liverpool - Newcastle - Arsenal - Rangers - Celtic.

Only my opinion Steven so chill bro.

Fair comment. Would be interesting if the prem was given 6 champions league slots if they came down.

 

[G.B]

21. Celtic
22. Rangers

 

[Stevencc]

21. Celtic
22. Rangers

St. Juste

 

[G.B]

Not even joking mate, can't imagine any reasonable argument against it. One of Celtic's absolute star players is West Brom and Villa reject Scott Sinclair for fuck sake. Then there's pish like Griffiths who just about did ok playing for the dominant team in our 3rd division. Rangers are slightly better than St. Johnstone and would struggle to compete in League 2. Shit teams littered with foreign rejects and terrible Scottish players playing in a joke league. Tierney and Dembele are possibly good enough for a relegation battling side in England, the rest are just laughably poor players.

 

[Stevencc]

 

[Benladdie3000]

Not even joking mate, can't imagine any reasonable argument against it. One of Celtic's absolute star players is West Brom and Villa reject Scott Sinclair for fuck sake. Then there's pish like Griffiths who just about did ok playing for the dominant team in our 3rd division. Rangers are slightly better than St. Johnstone and would struggle to compete in League 2. Shit teams littered with foreign rejects and terrible Scottish players playing in a joke league. Tierney and Dembele are possibly good enough for a relegation battling side in England, the rest are just laughably poor players.

Exactly the point. Big stadiums and good support but you gotta just laugh at the players. Hahaha league one squads playing in prem. Left right good night

 

[epic73]

The idea of Scottish teams in the Premier League is ridunkulous.

 

[Dirk]

Fair comment. Would be interesting if the prem was given 6 champions league slots if they came down.

Will not happen but let's "play" this scenario nonetheless:

Why should the PL been given another CL slot when Celtic and Rangers would join the league? The (1) Scottish Champions League Slot isn't "transferable" to the English Premier League.

Celtic's and Rangers "success" in the Premier League?

 

[SALTIRE]

Not even joking mate, can't imagine any reasonable argument against it. One of Celtic's absolute star players is West Brom and Villa reject Scott Sinclair for fuck sake. Then there's pish like Griffiths who just about did ok playing for the dominant team in our 3rd division. Rangers are slightly better than St. Johnstone and would struggle to compete in League 2. Shit teams littered with foreign rejects and terrible Scottish players playing in a joke league. Tierney and Dembele are possibly good enough for a relegation battling side in England, the rest are just laughably poor players.

Yet Celtic play in the CL every other year, so despite having players not even good enough for Newcastle supposedly, they are able to play at the pinnacle of European football unlike your side who has 10x the budget to play with.

 

[St. Juste]

Not even joking mate, can't imagine any reasonable argument against it. One of Celtic's absolute star players is West Brom and Villa reject Scott Sinclair for fuck sake. Then there's pish like Griffiths who just about did ok playing for the dominant team in our 3rd division. Rangers are slightly better than St. Johnstone and would struggle to compete in League 2. Shit teams littered with foreign rejects and terrible Scottish players playing in a joke league. Tierney and Dembele are possibly good enough for a relegation battling side in England, the rest are just laughably poor players.

It must have hurt when Griffiths scored twice against England.

Really quite badly I'd imagine.

Anyway, in answer to the question, Celtic would survive relegation but would likely finish in the bottom 10. It's laughable to suggest teams like Huddersfield, Watford or Brighton are better than them.

Rangers are a terrible team and wouldn't even match the points of Derby.

 

[G.B]

Oh look, the deluded Scots have turned up to defend m'ladys honour.

Yet Celtic play in the CL every other year, so despite having players not even good enough for Newcastle supposedly, they are able to play at the pinnacle of European football unlike your side who has 10x the budget to play with.

Yet the mighty Celtic have failed to qualify for the several of the last few years of the competition. Losing out to European powerhouses like Malmo and Maribor, as well as being battered twice by Molde on their way to exiting the Europa League without a win Are you going to tell me Molde could rock up in the PL next season and finish mid table as well? Granted they'd probably give a better account of themselves. Deluded.

It must have hurt when Griffiths scored twice against England.

Really quite badly I'd imagine.

Anyway, in answer to the question, Celtic would survive relegation but would likely finish in the bottom 10. It's laughable to suggest teams like Huddersfield, Watford or Brighton are better than them.

Rangers are a terrible team and wouldn't even match the points of Derby.

I don't follow the national team, so no, not really. Huddersfield, Watford and Brighton would batter Celtic home and away playing in second gear, what are you on about? Who's going to stop them? Former Man City reserve and Bolton reject Dedryck Boyata? Or their alcoholic goalkeeper who couldn't make it at Sunderland? It's laughable to suggest a club who believe Scott Sinclair to be a star would stand any chance in this vastly superior division. Bottom 10? Deluded.

 

[Stevencc]

G.B 1-0 Scotland

 

[epic73]

G.B 1-0 Scotland

2-0 if you include his earlier post.

 

[St. Juste]

Oh look, the deluded Scots have turned up to defend m'ladys honour.

Yet the mighty Celtic have failed to qualify for the several of the last few years of the competition. Losing out to European powerhouses like Malmo and Maribor, as well as being battered twice by Molde on their way to exiting the Europa League without a win Are you going to tell me Molde could rock up in the PL next season and finish mid table as well? Granted they'd probably give a better account of themselves. Deluded.
I don't follow the national team, so no, not really. Huddersfield, Watford and Brighton would batter Celtic home and away playing in second gear, what are you on about? Who's going to stop them? Former Man City reserve and Bolton reject Dedryck Boyata? Or their alcoholic goalkeeper who couldn't make it at Sunderland? It's laughable to suggest a club who believe Scott Sinclair to be a star would stand any chance in this vastly superior division. Bottom 10? Deluded.

Uh-huh, and how many times have you seen a Scottish side play?

Be specific now.

As for accusing Craig Gordon of being an alcoholic, evidence?

I can see why supporting Newcastle would leave you with a massive inferiority complex, however.

 

[epic73]

I can see why supporting Newcastle would leave you with a massive inferiority complex, however.

He supports a Premier League team.




You support a team in the Scottish second division.

 

[Stevencc]

Uh-huh, and how many times have you seen a Scottish side play?

Be specific now.

As for accusing Craig Gordon of being an alcoholic, evidence?

I can see why supporting Newcastle would leave you with a massive inferiority complex, however.

 

[St. Juste]

He supports a Premier League team.
You support a team in the Scottish second division.

Correct, if only I derived any self esteem from the football team I support I'd be in trouble.

Does 73 indicate the year you were born? If so, you really need to read the above post again.

Also, good to see the stereotype all Scotsman are supposedly alcoholics - someone should tell teetotaler Andy Murray.

 

[epic73]

Does 73 indicate the year you were born?

Nobody tell him.

 

[Stevencc]

Correct, if only I derived any self esteem from the football team I support I'd be in trouble.

Does 73 indicate the year you were born? If so, you really need to read the above post again.

Also, good to see the stereotype all Scotsman are supposedly alcoholics - someone should tell teetotaler Andy Murray.

Sorry, I should have made myself clear. The women are all alcoholics as well.

 

[G.B]

I can see why supporting Newcastle would leave you with a massive inferiority complex, however.

An incredible lack of self awareness on display here.

 

[JimJams]

Rangers rock bottom, Celtic 6 points above them. I'll let you guess who they take those 6 points from.

When Rangers went to shit I did wonder why they didn't try to enter the English football league pyramid. Granted it's a longer slog to get to the top tier but surely it'd be worth it long term.

 

[St. Juste]

An incredible lack of self awareness on display here.

Right then, so why don't you tell us how many Scottish sides you've seen and why Craig Gordon is an alcoholic?

This will be a good laugh.

Rangers rock bottom, Celtic 6 points above them. I'll let you guess who they take those 6 points from.

When Rangers went to shit I did wonder why they didn't try to enter the English football league pyramid. Granted it's a longer slog to get to the top tier but surely it'd be worth it long term.

Probably because they are a team based in Scotland.

As far as I'm aware, the only cross border team is Berwick Rangers who play in Scotland.

But as for the assertion that Celtic are miles off Premiership teams, it doesn't really stack up given quite a few of their players have gone to Premiership and succeeded. Even ones that failed, like Maloney or Marc-Anotine Fortune, went on to have careers in the Premiership.

It certainly amused me when an abject failure like Daryl Murphy did well in the Championship after a dismal spell in Scotland. So well he got signed by....Newcastle United.

 

[Nilsson]

Of course they'd both get relegated with their current squads.

All GB had to say was that Scott Sinclair is Celtic's best player. That sums the situation up perfectly.

 

[JimJams]

Probably because they are a team based in Scotland.

As far as I'm aware, the only cross border team is Berwick Rangers who play in Scotland.

Swansea and Cardiff are both Wales based. Same principle.

 

[St. Juste]

Of course they'd both get relegated with their current squads.

All GB had to say was that Scott Sinclair is Celtic's best player. That sums the situation up perfectly.

Doesn't sum it up particularly well, Scott Sinclair did well enough with Swansea (in the Premier League) to get signed by Man City. Is is not possible he is recapturing form earlier in his career?

But nevertheless, this is a bit of a closed market, ask this question to Premiership supporters and of course the response will be "they're both absolutely terrible and would finish 19th and 20th" despite having never seen any Scottish football in their life. For many, it's part of the illusion of the Premier League - everything else has to be rubbish by comparison. They would probably think AC Milan would be relegated too because they signed Fabio Borini.

It's lazy and ignorant, yes, but would you expect anything else from Brexit Britain? I could tell you the contents of this thread at the outset - accusing everyone Scottish of being alcoholic is not what I would have predicted.

Swansea and Cardiff are both Wales based. Same principle.

Not really, they have historically played in England, and Wales has a tenuous (at best) link to even being a country.

Scotland is very different to Wales. I'm not aware of any Scottish teams that play in England but happy to be corrected on this.

 

[Techno Natch]

The thing that people are overlooking here is could Celtic and Rangers attract players of better quality if they had the money and draw of the premiership?

 

[Nilsson]

Doesn't sum it up particularly well, Scott Sinclair did well enough with Swansea (in the Premier League) to get signed by Man City. Is is not possible he is recapturing form earlier in his career?

Jack Rodwell signed for Man City in the same transfer window as Sinclair. Maybe he should piss off to Scotland to "recapture form earlier in his career" too. He'd probably be an even bigger hit than Sinclair over there.

 

[G.B]

Right then, so why don't you tell us how many Scottish sides you've seen and why Craig Gordon is an alcoholic?

This will be a good laugh.

I've seen 42 different Scottish teams attempt to play football. I remember watching Inverness live as a boy. I cried the whole time.

Why he's an alcoholic? Weakness I suppose. Bad genes play a part obviously.

Doesn't sum it up particularly well, Scott Sinclair did well enough with Swansea (in the Premier League) to get signed by Man City. Is is not possible he is recapturing form earlier in his career?

Isn't it more likely down to the SPL being a joke of a league full of shit teams and shit players?

The thing that people are overlooking here is could Celtic and Rangers attract players of better quality if they had the money and draw of the premiership?

No because they'd have to live in Glasgow.