How to deal with Stop and Search

[Ian_Wrexham]

Lambeth-schoolkid style. Nothing but respect and admiration for this lot.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crim...two-police-officers-in-lewisham-a3404411.html

 

[NorfolkWomble]

Police turned up to an organised fight between kids, tried stopping it, got attacked, including a female officer, got their heads stamped on.

This wasn't police brutality, this was idiotic chavvy schoolkids attacking police.

 

[JaseTheVillain]

Nothing but respect and admiration? Please tell me this is a joke.

2 coppers to try and stop an organised fight, suspected one of carrying a knife, so carry out their civil duties and get attacked for that privilege by a bunch of savages?

What the fuck is wrong with people these days?

Hope they find and lock up the lot of the horrible, savage bastards, regardless of their ages. They're all old enough to know better and know the consequences of their actions. Attacking the people who are there to protect the public, whilst trying to protect the public and you're applauding that? You are a disgusting human being.

 

[Stevencc]

This is the one time where I'm patiently awaiting a response from johnnytodd in the "News and Current Affairs" section.

 

[Jockney]

I did like the part about the kids damaging the copper's mobile phone juxtaposed with 'stomping' on the fella's head, basically a tacit admission that the latter didn't actually happen.

Met Police are scum and deserve everything they get. Working class kids fighting back, good on them.

 

[Leo]

Aye, they're always brave when there's a crowd of them then after getting they guy to the ground they scarper off like the rats they are!

 

[Techno Natch]

Aye, they're always brave when there's a crowd of them then after getting they guy to the ground they scarper off like the rats they are!

To be fair you could be talking about the police when they're are in their riot gear and big numbers. Or just when they feel they have control of a situation.

That being said I'm not sure this is a good example of civil disobedience.

 

[Leo]

To be fair you could be talking about the police when they're are in their riot gear and big numbers. Or just when they feel they have control of a situation.

That being said I'm not sure this is a good example of civil disobedience.

I give my opinion without prejudice Techno (If it was the other way about I would certainly condemn the Police & have done so on many occasions) & of course it certainly could be described as you state but what I described is what I saw mate & on this occasion the rats are NOT wearing the uniform.

 

[Veggie Legs]

To be fair you could be talking about the police when they're are in their riot gear and big numbers. Or just when they feel they have control of a situation.

That being said I'm not sure this is a good example of civil disobedience.

Too moderate Natch: police are either heroes or scum, there's no middle ground...

 

[johnnytodd]

Hope they battered the little c*nt in the cells.

 

[Ian_Wrexham]

Nothing but respect and admiration? Please tell me this is a joke.

2 coppers to try and stop an organised fight, suspected one of carrying a knife, so carry out their civil duties and get attacked for that privilege by a bunch of savages?

What the fuck is wrong with people these days?

Hope they find and lock up the lot of the horrible, savage bastards, regardless of their ages. They're all old enough to know better and know the consequences of their actions. Attacking the people who are there to protect the public, whilst trying to protect the public and you're applauding that? You are a disgusting human being.

Maybe you don't know how stop and search works.

Police go around black areas of London and stop kids. They always say "you fit the description of a person involved in a burglary/seen carrying a knife/suspected of dealing drugs". It's a lie, a more-or-less unverifiable pretext to carry out a search. This has happened to loads of people I know (but strangely, no white people I know). Even the cops recognise that one-in-four Stop and Searches are unlawful.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...0-people-stopped-officers-sticking-rules.html

Anyway, the Met's PR department are liars so I'm calling bullshit on the "pre-arranged fight" stuff. The video shows a child pinned to a car by a burly man - clearly in some distress. His friends are clearly concerned for him - at first they're just watching/filming, but then start shouting "you're choking him, stop choking him" and that's when there becomes a collective urgency to physically intervene to help out their mate.

Doubt any of these kids have any illusions about how the police in Lambeth work - it's only weeks since the cops who lied about their involvement in Sean Rigg's death in Brixton Police Station were cleared in court.

 

[johnnytodd]

Maybe you don't know how stop and search works.

Police go around black areas of London and stop kids. They always say "you fit the description of a person involved in a burglary/seen carrying a knife/suspected of dealing drugs". It's a lie, a more-or-less unverifiable pretext to carry out a search. This has happened to loads of people I know (but strangely, no white people I know). Even the cops recognise that one-in-four Stop and Searches are unlawful.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...0-people-stopped-officers-sticking-rules.html

Anyway, the Met's PR department are liars so I'm calling bullshit on the "pre-arranged fight" stuff. The video shows a child pinned to a car by a burly man - clearly in some distress. His friends are clearly concerned for him - at first they're just watching/filming, but then start shouting "you're choking him, stop choking him" and that's when there becomes a collective urgency to physically intervene to help out their mate.

Doubt any of these kids have any illusions about how the police in Lambeth work - it's only weeks since the cops who lied about their involvement in Sean Rigg's death in Brixton Police Station were cleared in court.

I think its right they should stop these kids if there is sufficient reason, the same way all pony-tailed men over 30 should be considered a peado until proven otherwise.

 

[Aber gas]

Hope they battered the little c*nt in the cells.

Do you agree with systematic police brutality then?

 

[Aber gas]

I think its right they should stop these kids if there is sufficient reason, the same way all pony-tailed men over 30 should be considered a peado until proven otherwise.

Bet you've got a right creepy face.

 

[johnnytodd]

Do you agree with systematic police brutality then?

Only on peados, rapists , murderers, terrorists and the welsh.

When i was a lad you always got a twatting in the cells , doesn't half make you think twice about doing stuff again.

Bet you've got a right creepy face.

tablets wearing off?

 

[JaseTheVillain]

I... Just... No. This thread has the potential to make me very angry. I shall say no more.

 

[johnnytodd]

I... Just... No. This thread has the potential to make me very angry. I shall say no more.

Its cas day blak Bro, PC crowd like nothing more to criticize police for being racist.

Init !

 

[Aber gas]

Representatives of a racist, corrupt and politicised firm get a bit of a scare whilst targeting children. Yep I'm fine with all of that.

 

[johnnytodd]

Representatives of a racist, corrupt and politicised firm get a bit of a scare whilst targeting children. Yep I'm fine with all of that.

Meanwhile thousands of youngsters now think its cool to have a go at the police.....recipe for disaster.

 

[Aber gas]

I'd like to highlight some fairly racist cultural appropriation going on in this thread.
Cheers.

 

[Monkey]

This was obviously organised by the school kids. They've all gone blacked up.

 

[mowgli]

I'd like to highlight some fairly racist cultural appropriation going on in this thread.
Cheers.

Noted mate,if it gets worse i'll delete such posts.

 

[johnnytodd]

How anyone can defend these scum is beyond me, the police have a tough enough time as it is.

Kids of today have no respect.

 

[Abertawe]

The result of decades worth of indoctrination as to what it means to grow up urban poor, especially black urban poor.

 

[johnnytodd]

I think the glorification of gangster rap has played a part in this.

 

[eightiesrobin]

I don't normally get involved with this part of the forum, but I am distinctly uncomfortable with the acceptance of casual violence expressed in this thread.

I accept some members of the police force are wrong 'uns, but applauding a mob assault on two people going about their daily job is outrageous, and more than one of you needs to give your head a wobble. Did you lot feel the same way about the two officers murdered by Dale Cregan?

 

[Jockney]

I don't normally get involved with this part of the forum, but I am distinctly uncomfortable with the acceptance of casual violence expressed in this thread.

I accept some members of the police force are wrong 'uns, but applauding a mob assault on two people going about their daily job is outrageous, and more than one of you needs to give your head a wobble. Did you lot feel the same way about the two officers murdered by Dale Cregan?

Need to get away from this talk of individual police officers exercising unsanctioned acts of violence and towards the reality, the fact that the police are by design rigorous enforcers of systematic state violence. I am indifferent to the plight of individual coppers who, consciously or not, reinforce and make themselves complicit in that violence. It is very much us against them, and they are far better equipped to take the fight to us and they do it far more often than we do.

 

[johnnytodd]

Great post robin and a wake up call to some on here.....doesn't matter if your black. White,yellow or Australian u cant fight the police.

 

[Jockney]

Great post and a wake up call to some on here.....doesn't matter if your black. White,yellow or Australian u cant fight the police.

 

[Leo]

Need to get away from this talk of individual police officers exercising unsanctioned acts of violence and towards the reality, the fact that the police are by design rigorous enforcers of systematic state violence. I am indifferent to the plight of individual coppers who, consciously or not, reinforce and make themselves complicit in that violence. It is very much us against them, and they are far better equipped to take the fight to us and they do it far more often than we do.

THAT is the most outrageous piece of utter garbage I have read on this forum. You Jockney are obviously a 'hater' of the Police & I've got to say that in situations I have criticised them myself when justified but that comment defies fucking belief!!!