The David Hilton/White Rants thread

[Ninety Per Cent]

Club Statement

An update from owner David Hilton...

www.scunthorpe-united.co.uk

As many of you were aware, Scunthorpe United was in court today facing the very real prospect of being evicted from Glanford Park.

We achieved a positive outcome today. While the immediate prospect of eviction has been halted, there were no winners or losers.

The club remains in the ground until next year when a three-day hearing will be listed. We will use the time to continue negotiations and hopefully achieve a settlement that works for all parties.

Legal action has never been our preferred option and we hope this can be resolved without further hearings.

The club would like to thank Tahina Akther of Wildcat Law and Richard Chapman KC for their hard work and for representing the club at the hearing.

 

[Ninety Per Cent]

Bottega Don is quiet on Yesterday’s news, I expected a “i bet you’re gutted we haven’t been thrown out” from him.

 

[Bottega Don]

Bottega Don is quiet on Yesterday’s news, I expected a “i bet you’re gutted we haven’t been thrown out” from him.

I'm too busy revelling in Jimmyball, one day you'll have to admit he's doing a good job

 

[Ninety Per Cent]

May as well put this in here...

Investigation: The football club owner with four names believed to have been convicted of fraud

David Hilton cleared a six-figure tax bill and pledged to take Scunthorpe back to the EFL, but his suitability to be owner is under scrutiny

theathletic.com

 

[Ninety Per Cent]

https://soundcloud.com/sufcofficial-398987333%2Finterview-david-hilton

 

[kieran_vale]

The only thing you can say on this is a reputable outlet like The Athletic would not have put this stuff out there if they had even the slightest doubt about it. Be a real shame if this does end up another Bury. Suppose some fans while Scunny are winning games won’t be too concerned though which would be the same at all clubs really.

Edit - listened to the interview after which pretty much confirms it’s true. Not sure if there’s a fit and proper test at this level now but would be interesting if this was all declared then.

 

[Ninety Per Cent]

Hello ground, let me stick my head in you.

 

[Ninety Per Cent]

Lol

 

[Ninety Per Cent]

Lol x 2

 

[Ninety Per Cent]

Oh, and Bottega getting ripped into by Southend fans for saying they complain too much when it’s a Southend United fan(along with an ex- Hull City reporter and Sunderland fan) who worked on that story.

Yep.

 

[Ninety Per Cent]

David Hilton:

I don’t have any other convictions. But the situation is simple now mate. I’ve put the club up for sale but nobody wants it. The consortium never had the money last time and still don’t. They are not interested and I’ve offered it at a considerable financial loss to myself for the good of the club. That means that if I step away the club dies. If I don’t pay money to lawyers to continue submitting docs against Swann he gets us out in a week. I didn’t give the stadium away, yet I seem to be blamed now for that to.
If I don’t pay HMRC there will be a winding up petition put out next week.

If I don’t pay players they will leave and an embargo would stop any coming in.

If I don’t pay the bills the club will get 60 CCJs and winding up petitions in a month.

You see, people want to judge me on what I did 12 years ago. They want to judge me on things that I’ve not done rather than everything I am going Press and media want to say the FA should have more stringent checks. What have I done wrong, why does nobody mention that I saved a club in Ilkeston days from death, spent fortunes and saved a community club that is now thriving, or that I got 600 kids integrated there and paid £1m for a 4g pitch so they are altogether. What about the works and donations to less fortunate and charitable organisations, what about all the money I have put in to Scunthorpe for no reward, the 70 hours a week I’ve put in and not worked my day job, what about the fact that since I came in nobody has helped me, the council promised Quibell park for training but then change their mind because of American football (priorities right) or Ian sharp the saviour actively suing the club for 150k what about the fact the council made me spend thousands on securing land in town for a stadium with the promise of assistance to last week tell me they have no money to contribute. What about the really big businesses up there that are not interested, I’ve done everything up there on my own with the only help being the true supporters coming through the turnstiles and small and medium sized businesses supporting us. Nobody else gives a shit.

I’ve had Taft come out playing the victim but what people don’t know is that he refused to play the final 5 games, he signed for another club with a signing on fee but told them to withheld the registration so he could con another 6k from
Us and people wonder why I’m not paying him. Why has he not gone to the PFA. What about Richard Smales who sold sponsorship and hospitality packages at a loss to the club to fund his own pocket via commission, then when he’s sacked plays the victim and now wants £6k from the club after practically stealing from us.

When you consider what I’ve gone through and the attacks on me for bringing Jimmy in, then the academy then training out of town then the dossier then they want to highlight all the things I’ve not done with no mention of all the things I have it’s a disgrace. I’m not playing the victim but for a certain mob to think I owe apologies because I denied prison and denied my past in February which I was legally entitled to do is bollocks. I owe nobody up there a dam thing.
People can continue, they can continue to bring up my daughter and her home she works Dam hard to provide for herself and is proud, they can ridicule me for my failings, for my past and for the things I get wrong. But know this mate, them cowardly life destroying journalists and especially those trolls up there that hide behind fake accounts will never achieve what I have, I’ve said before, my life has broken
Pieces and it’s littered with mistakes but it also has an almighty comeback and regardless of the real dark place I’m in right now I’m a better man for the path I took. This has affected not just me and the club but also my family, friends and businesses. I’m to ashamed to leave my house and I never deserved that.
People will now see what happens when I don’t pay the bills. The ones missed have either slipped through the net or are in negotiation or quite simply won’t be paid for reasons I’ve mentioned. But they are a drop in the ocean compared to everything I have paid and sorted and now i need to decide if I stop paying and let the people who say it was for the good of the community to practically murder me publicly pat themselves on their own back for potentially killing a football club.
Please thank everyone who supports me and I promise if I continue moving forward it is solely for them. I’m one of them and always have been.

Finally Jason, why do you think I’m all for giving second chances, you’ll see the same people get blamed in DRE that were previously banned. Any mis directed fart is their fault, just because they made a past mistake or two. Judgement of others is rife. The funniest thing is when they say that if I’d been honest about things in February they would of been more supportive, would they fuck they would have lynched me and the club would have been dead already. Apologise I fucking won’t.

 

[AndyPark]

He has a screw loose him, always the victim.

Feel sorry for Scunny having to deal with that ego.

 

[Ninety Per Cent]

From the Fishy...spot on really...nothing is happening at the moment only one group of fans tearing into the rest

There is a few on Twitter labelling Hilton 'a legend '

-shafted a load of kids by text message and social media ,saying the academy is closed .
-Told the fans the 'deal was done ' for the club ,land and ground ; everything ' only for it not to be .
- Fails/failed to pay creditors because he does not want to (although no doubt contractually obligated to)
- Abused their Iron Bru podcast /forum labelling them as 'vermin' after they asked reasonable questions
- Said he would deliver a new 'purpose built' stadium by May 2025 with the help of the council (which they knew nothing about )
- Denied ever having any other previous names at their fans forum , apart from White & Hilton - saying it was for family reasons .
- Various burner accounts appeared on Twitter offering anyone who had any sort of doubts with threats , accusations and vile abuse . It was not Dave ,but he said he had only ever been Hilton / White so who knows.
- He said Scunthorpe Utd would 'always play at Glanford Park ' 6 months later it is revealed an agreement is in place for Scunthorpe to play home games at Gainsborough Trinity if they are evicted from Glanford Park.
- then there is the ticket scheme , all of the wild statements , Sherbet , all the actual naughty stuff which is just a small amount of it by all accounts and whatever I have forgotten in this insanely non-believable show down the road over the last nine months .

Some legend

 

[Ninety Per Cent]

Aiden McCartney(Mirror Journo)'s twitter is worth a look for a minute, there's replies from the likes of Bottega Don failing to believe the club is heading for the abyss

 

[Ninety Per Cent]

Denial.

 

[Bottega Don]

Aiden McCartney(Mirror Journo)'s twitter is worth a look for a minute, there's replies from the likes of Bottega Don failing to believe the club is heading for the abyss

Have you never read one of my posts before? Not sure I have ever been pro Hilton

I am pro Jimmy Dean because he is doing an incredible job all things considered

 

[Ninety Per Cent]

Dean is Hilton’s mate, he wouldn’t have moved from Peterborough otherwise

Back Dean, Back Hilton.

 

[Son of Cod]

Yikes, looks like the shit is really hitting the fan. Club back up for sale??

It is such a curious case this one. I've gone back and forth quite a bit, is the man maliciously bringing the club down or is he a complete moron or is he just severely deluded?

Will be interesting to see what coffee lid guy and all the pro-Hilton heads are saying now.

From the Fishy...spot on really...

The Fishy is seldom anything other than a cesspit of overreaction to the latest Town defeat/win but credit where credit's due, it's been the best source of information on this whole debacle. I saw something on the Lincoln forum slating the thread saying that nasty Grimsby were laying into poor Scunny but really it's been a fairly impartial and informative read if you ignore the expected local rivalry digs.

 

[Ninety Per Cent]

Didn’t see the original post

 

[Son of Cod]

Scunthorpe United: this is what *this sort of thing* looks like

Scunthorpe United are dying before our very eyes. Of that there now seems to be little question.

unexpecteddelirium.substack.com

 

[Ninety Per Cent]

If you’re going to back one of the other contenders for the NLN title nows the time to do so
I’d expect Whitehall, Fitzsimmons, Scales etc to walk when they stop getting paid.

 

[Son of Cod]

If you’re going to back one of the other contenders for the NLN title nows the time to do so
I’d expect Whitehall, Fitzsimmons, Scales etc to walk when they stop getting paid.

Can't remember if I've asked (don't think I have) but what are you hoping for personally? Obviously the ideal scenario is that a buyer comes in and Hilton fucks off without doing irreparable damage but as it's not likely what do you realistically want? I know BD has said before he doesn't have the energy to support a phoenix club after everything, but would you get behind that if it happened?

 

[Bottega Don]

Can't remember if I've asked (don't think I have) but what are you hoping for personally? Obviously the ideal scenario is that a buyer comes in and Hilton fucks off without doing irreparable damage but as it's not likely what do you realistically want? I know BD has said before he doesn't have the energy to support a phoenix club after everything, but would you get behind that if it happened?

He’s hoping the club dies, would be the happiest day of his life

 

[Ninety Per Cent]

Can't remember if I've asked (don't think I have) but what are you hoping for personally? Obviously the ideal scenario is that a buyer comes in and Hilton fucks off without doing irreparable damage but as it's not likely what do you realistically want? I know BD has said before he doesn't have the energy to support a phoenix club after everything, but would you get behind that if it happened?

Realistically, nobody is going to buy a club with no assets and debts piling up. We should have started afresh a year or two ago in the NCEL, but this farce has been allowed to continue.

It's a regular story for Non-league watchers, but a lot of Scunny fans refuse to believe it.

I'd expect the players to drift away, then Dean, then the Administrator/Liquidator.

He’s hoping the club dies, would be the happiest day of his life

Standard defensive quote from Bottega there.
Least i didn't say i would walk away from the club on the other forum.

 

[Ninety Per Cent]

Anyway, here's Hilton's self-appointed Minder laying into critical fans(the OP)

https://twitter.com/x/status/1704193147457187964

 

[Ninety Per Cent]

Another copy and paste from the Fishy

(Simon)Elliott was pictured in a video with (Jason)Herbert last week at the pub, having a good laugh.

I don't see a way out. I would love to do something for a phoenix club prep, but don't have the money to get that rolling and the worries over fan reaction is something. I don't know if it would be well supported, because so many would see it as defeatism and undermining Dave when our current club is still there.

I try to understand the opposite view, we need unity. However, my patience has been sorely tested and it's maybe coming to an end. There's only so long I can be charitable and understanding to the most ardent backers of Hilton, while they continue to get high off their own supply and refuse to consider any other point of view to see if they're right or wrong. It's ludicrous; Dave's excuses for not paying those he owes are dumb and unbelievable, he has no money and is not trustworthy. Yet those of us who do so much as question anything are damned as club killers, toxic and abusive by those hurling out abuse. There have been cases of people's health being mocked because they are concerned about Hilton. Division is inevitable when one side is so self-assure, which is mad when you consider what they're so certain about. It's football's most daft cult at this point.

 

[Ninety Per Cent]

So yesterday Aidan(Journo mentioned above) heard from Hilton’s self appointed spokesman we are off to Gainsborough for home games soon and tweeted it.

Said person ripped Aidan’s phone out of his hands and threw it on the pitch. Then a burner twitter account posted videos of him to try get him in the shit.

 

[Ninety Per Cent]

I do Agree with Hilton that the damage was done with the ground steal and the supporters groups sat there doing nothing.

 

[Son of Cod]

I do Agree with Hilton that the damage was done with the ground steal and the supporters groups sat there doing nothing.

Yep, it's also not right that his family is getting abuse obviously.

Complaining about having to put money in and constantly listing what he's spent though is ridiculous. If he's spunking his kids' inheritance on it, more fool him for buying the club. You don't buy a house if you can't afford the mortgage or you don't buy a sports car if you can't afford to put petrol in it. The more it unravels the more it becomes clear that he thought that he could buy the club and that everything would magically be okay because he could point to the damage being done by Swann. The guy is the utterly unfortunate combo of egomaniac plus moron.

 

[Ninety Per Cent]

He’s lied so much, through himself or his spokesperson we don’t know if it was true or not.
Supposed to have been verbally abused when getting into his car after a game but nobody can vouch for it.