Stickied Transfer Rumours 2023/24

[rudebwoyben]

Anyone got any thoughts on Nicky Derverdics? Apparently he's about to sign for us:
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11717/9848749

Can't say that I've ever heard of him...

He is not League 2 standard. Although neat in possession and a good user of the ball he doesn't have the physical presence to impose himself on matches. A bit of a non-league Michael Carrick I'd say.

 

[Judge Dredd]

He is not League 2 standard. Although neat in possession and a good user of the ball he doesn't have the physical presence to impose himself on matches. A bit of a non-league Michael Carrick I'd say.

Carrick's bloody good though! What position did he play when he was with you guys? My understanding is he plays in an advanced midfield role for Dover, your Carrick comparison suggests he played deeper for you?

I'm still not 100% convinced the story is true, Sky Sports have jumped the gun on breaking news of us signing players recently and central midfield isn't exactly a priority area for us at the moment. Saying that, we have excellent defensive midfielders but our creative players have been varying shades of crap and long-term injured this season so who knows...

 

[rudebwoyben]

When he was with us he played in a deeper midfield role. I think he's similar to Carrick but he's not as effective as him. He decorated our matches rather than take charge of them.

 

[Eastleigh Fan]

JP to Eastleigh.

Jack Parkinson isn't good enough for this level.

Ready for this one Woking boys...?

 

[Sparrow]

Ready for this one Woking boys...?

If it's Josh Payne, then well done. He was obviously convinced by the ££££££££ Eastleigh Vision™ which is a shame as he's too good for this level. At this stage of his career he should be looking to progress and not hang around in the Conference. I was certain he wouldn't re-sign with us for next season so that he could move into the Football League. I was surprised last season that he stayed for another year. He can and will be replaced and I'd much rather have kept a 20+ goal scorer than him.

You will find he is a million times more influential than Craig Stanley albeit, I probably am too.

 

[Lew]

Jordan Roberts has been offered a new contract but our local paper says 2 FL clubs are after him. That'll be him gone.

 

[Southern Shayman]

If it's Josh Payne, then well done. He was obviously convinced by the ££££££££ Eastleigh Vision™ which is a shame as he's too good for this level. At this stage of his career he should be looking to progress and not hang around in the Conference. I was certain he wouldn't re-sign with us for next season so that he could move into the Football League. I was surprised last season that he stayed for another year. He can and will be replaced and I'd much rather have kept a 20+ goal scorer than him.

You will find he is a million times more influential than Craig Stanley albeit, I probably am too.

Well if Akinde cost £200k then Payne must be worth £400k

Because that's how it works apparently, "out of contract" is a web of lies and deceit... Aint that right Eastleigh Fan

 

[Eastleigh Fan]

No not at all, you see the trick is, that Alfreton & Barnet agreed the deal long before Akinde's contract was up. Part of that agreement was that Afreton did not push Akinde's name out to any other clubs and for that it was agreed Barnet would pay the handsome figure.

You lot really are naive if you think that the top players contracts are just allowed to run down and then leave for nothing.

 

[rudebwoyben]

One thing comes to mind that blows the hole out of your theory. Martin Allen had only taken charge of us in March 2014, so was hardly in a position to make such an agreement with Alfreton "long before Akinde's contact was up."

 

[Eastleigh Fan]

Do you really, honestly, believe that the Barnet Manager signs all the players at the football club?
Naive in the extreme.

 

[Eastleigh Fan]

Go and ask one of your BoD members.
Look him in the eye, and ask for his response on the Akinde deal.
You clearly have no idea who & how you football club is being run by.
Why do you think Allen has been given the Barnet job 4 times in a relatively short space of time between leaving & coming back again?
He's a puppet.

 

[DarkSithLord]

No not at all, you see the trick is, that Alfreton & Barnet agreed the deal long before Akinde's contract was up. Part of that agreement was that Afreton did not push Akinde's name out to any other clubs and for that it was agreed Barnet would pay the handsome figure.

You lot really are naive if you think that the top players contracts are just allowed to run down and then leave for nothing.

Rubbish. Also No way did we get 200k for Akinde

 

[rudebwoyben]

Go and ask one of your BoD members.
Look him in the eye, and ask for his response on the Akinde deal.
You clearly have no idea who & how you football club is being run by.
Why do you think Allen has been given the Barnet job 4 times in a relatively short space of time between leaving & coming back again?
He's a puppet.

That's funny. Martin Allen has a force of personality that makes him about the least likely manager to be anyone's puppet. He's also been open about the fact that he's utilised the budget so that we've had a pretty small but much higher quality squad than before and that when he's needed a bit of additional money in order to loan someone in, he's discussed each situation with Tony Kleanthous.
I'm also pretty sure that Tony Kleanthous wouldn't sanction such spending.

 

[Eastleigh Fan]

yeh yeh yeh, Barnet have a small budget blah blah blah. Akinde was the top wage earner in this league by a country mile. Even Constable only earnt 60% of what Akinde earnt last season.
If you are purely talk about your "playing budget", you have to consider that they spunked £250k of that budget on Akinde.
Do the maths, go ask questions of your BoD. Dont just believe the BS you are given by Allen.
It's why he keeps leaving, because he falls out with the puppeteers at the club.
Then when he can't hold another job down, he comes running back with his tail between his legs.
I heard he was flabbergasted at Akinde's wages, because they eclipsed his own by some considerable margin and that's why he is never involved in doing the deals for players, because he doesn't want to pay them what the Chairman happily pays them, whilst having to be manager on peanuts (in his own mind).

 

[Southern Shayman]

No not at all, you see the trick is, that Alfreton & Barnet agreed the deal long before Akinde's contract was up. Part of that agreement was that Afreton did not push Akinde's name out to any other clubs and for that it was agreed Barnet would pay the handsome figure.

You lot really are naive if you think that the top players contracts are just allowed to run down and then leave for nothing.

You forgot Constable was also in the same position at Oxford. So what fee did you pay? seen as contracts "don't just run down"

Or did Oxford Utd buy in to your vision as well?

 

[Eastleigh Fan]

No fee for Constable. The difference here was that OUFC offered him a new deal to stay on, but it was only a 1 year deal on less wages. So our owner, who as you should know also occasionally helps out financially at OUFC, then offered JC a 2 year deal on the same wages he got at Oxford and of course sold him the Eastleigh Vision, and the rest they say is history.
FWIW - i've not been all that impressed with Constable and for the wages he is on, there are much better players out there, but the owner knows him well and it was his choice, so that was how it all worked out. You see, Barnet are not the only club who's manager doesn't have much say in the financial side of the clubs transfer targets.....it sounds like you are all surprised, but managers doing the deals, is actually quite a rare thing these days. Which shows just how distant you all are from what goes on at your respective football clubs. Times have changed. It's not all sheepskin coats, brown envelopes & sweeteners for the wife...
Very smart business men are now running our football clubs, do you really think they are going to trust their millions, to uneducated people like Allen to spend? Get real.

 

[Southern Shayman]

No fee for Constable. The difference here was that OUFC offered him a new deal to stay on, but it was only a 1 year deal on less wages. So our owner, who as you should know also occasionally helps out financially at OUFC, then offered JC a 2 year deal on the same wages he got at Oxford and of course sold him the Eastleigh Vision, and the rest they say is history.

But you said contracts aren't allowed to run down? So how did that manage to happen?

Unless you're just making it up

 

[Luke Imp]

Is it not illegal to be involved in and/or financially help out two Clubs?

 

[Eastleigh Fan]

OUFC assumed he was going to sign the new deal, so they didnt believe his contract was running down. They made a very poor assumption that he would just resign because he loved the club, but they didnt bank on him being rather miffed that they only offered him a 1 year deal on less money & actually took that as an insult....oops...bad OUFC....

Now do you get how it works, you Extreme new club *******?

 

[Eastleigh Fan]

Is it not illegal to be involved in and/or financially help out two Clubs?

No, its not, Its only illegal to OWN 2 clubs, or be the majority shareholder at 2 different English clubs.
Hence why the bloke at Newcastle can invest in Rangers and why many of todays premiership owners are also involved in what they now call "feeder clubs".
You can own clubs in other countries though, as the likes of the Man City mob currently do with US New York team they also own.

 

[Southern Shayman]

OUFC assumed he was going to sign the new deal, so they didnt believe his contract was running down. They made a very poor assumption that he would just resign because he loved the club, but they didnt bank on him being rather miffed that they only offered him a 1 year deal on less money & actually took that as an insult....oops...bad OUFC....

Now do you get how it works, you Extreme new club Fuckwit?

The answer you're looking for is "Yes, they let his contract run down, whether intentionally or not, and another club signed him on a free transfer. The same as happens at many other clubs across the English football pyramid. Including the signing of John Akinde by Barnet"

Glad we could clear that up and thanks for your assistance

 

[Sparrow]

Now do you get how it works, you Extreme new club Fuckwit?

Any danger of a moderator stepping in, stopping these insults and banning Eastleigh's Fan?

 

[Luke Imp]

No, its not, Its only illegal to OWN 2 clubs, or be the majority shareholder at 2 different English clubs.
Hence why the bloke at Newcastle can invest in Rangers and why many of todays premiership owners are also involved in what they now call "feeder clubs".
You can own clubs in other countries though, as the likes of the Man City mob currently do with US New York team they also own.

Rangers aren't an English Club. They're classed as an international Club, hence Ashley being able to do so.

 

[Eastleigh Fan]

Absolutely naive and clueless.
Most clubs these days (mainly because of the transfer windows rules) do deals behind the scenes months in advance, otherwise what would be the point of transfers or any contract negotiations. Clubs who want to genuinely keep their top players, will top up their contracts up 2 years in advance, so that no clubs come sniffing around (i'm talking Pro football here). How often do you read that such and such has signed an extension to his contract. They do that to ward off attentions of others clubs whilst the transfer window is shut! knowing that clubs will go through the back door to tap players up. Equally, clubs who would quite like to sell their star player, but are aware that he can walk for free at the end of the season, will themselves start contacting other clubs, to see if there is any interest in doing a deal ahead of the end of contract and as such will then get a "transfer fee" that gets "hidden" as "another" cost somewhere within that clubs finances...
If you genuinely and honestly believe this does not go on at every club in the land, then WOW, just WOW.

 

[Eastleigh Fan]

Why just ban me, i wasnt the first to use a swear word.
A woking fan calling someone else a badboy. Laughable.

 

[Gibber_McGee]

Word on the stryd in Wrexham is that Lee Fowler may be making a return.

 

[DarkSithLord]

Any danger of a moderator stepping in, stopping these insults and banning Eastleigh's Fan?

On it. Have issued "Eastleigh Fan" with a warning. Please watch your language towards fellow members in the future. Thanks

 

[DarkSithLord]

Why just ban me, i wasnt the first to use a swear word.
A woking fan calling someone else a badboy. Laughable.

Its not the use of the swear words that is the issue its the fact it was directed at a fellow forum member.

 

[Southern Shayman]

On it. Have issued "Eastleigh Fan" with a warning. Please watch your language towards fellow members in the future. Thanks

On that note, I apologise and retract my use of language.

 

[Eastleigh Fan]

Likewise. My Apologies. But i was brought up that if someone attacks you, you attack back.
You do not stand there and let it happen, nor do you run to teacher or moderator, nor in Woking fans cases, run to the stewards telling them that the naughty man is going to hurt me.
Cowardly fans are the worst there is, especially when they have given it the biggun to a 60 year old man, then run like buggery when someone who looks a bit handy takes up their case...