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Why not look elsewhere ?
If Russell slade is the answer, then I would love to know what the question is.
I just don't get this sacking. Bizarre.
But then I don't watch your team so u know more than I do about it.
Basically John Fenty hates being out of his comfort zone and the previous two managers have been trying to make some changes to how we do things. Fenty's not liked the idea so one quit for the greener side and another got the chop. I personally don't know about his relationship with Slade but I imagine it's a better the devil you know scenario.

I'm actually quietly optimistic about this appointment. I'll never respect the decision to sack Bignot, it makes me fume knowing that he didn't get the time that Slade will definitely get. Even if he's a resounding success, that decision will always be a sore spot for me as I believe the club would have been in a really healthy position in years to come. But, despite being treated like idiots throughout it all once again, we as fans have to move on and support the next bloke. I became a season ticket holder shortly after Slade's good season here so I didn't see most of it in the flesh but I hear a lot of good things from both supporters and former players who worked with him. I'm excited to see what he can do with what I think is already a good squad full of potential.
 

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Basically John Fenty hates being out of his comfort zone and the previous two managers have been trying to make some changes to how we do things. Fenty's not liked the idea so one quit for the greener side and another got the chop. I personally don't know about his relationship with Slade but I imagine it's a better the devil you know scenario.
I'm actually quietly optimistic about this appointment. I'll never respect the decision to sack Bignot, it makes me fume knowing that he didn't get the time that Slade will definitely get. Even if he's a resounding success, that decision will always be a sore spot for me as I believe the club would have been in a really healthy position in years to come. But, despite being treated like idiots throughout it all once again, we as fans have to move on and support the next bloke. I became a season ticket holder shortly after Slade's good season here so I didn't see most of it in the flesh but I hear a lot of good things from both supporters and former players who worked with him. I'm excited to see what he can do with what I think is already a good squad full of potential.
It was very effective under Slade but also quite long ball, chuck it long and let Michael Reddy chase it down and create chances from it. Worked a treat though but then in the play off final Reddy went off injured and we were clueless with no plan B after that against a Cheltenham side that we had done the double over that same season.
 

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Now I've had time to think about it and calm down, I won't be disappointed with Slade, I think my and many fans problems with it is why we're even in this situation.

The decision to sack Bignot is the wrong one at this stage, I think its a shocking decision to be honest and makes a mockery of the club. He deserved the time he needed to do what was asked of him. I thought we were better than that, but I guess not. I think Bignot will learn from this experience and go to be a very successful manager eventually.

As for Slade, I guess we will never know why he left us and the no show at Cardiff but apart from a couple of basket case clubs he hasn't done to bad, lge 1 manager of the year twice, finished 8th in the championship. He also led us to our most successful season in quite a while before last years.

He can't be on that bad terms with Fenty if he has agreed to come back so maybe some of the rumours from back then aren't true. I missed the first half of that season due to being in the Falklands but got back for the second half and final and wished i hadn't!

Anyway like any manager of my club he will get my support, he just better be successful quick, because the fickle ones will soon turn and I dread to think what will happen to us with Fenty in charge based on the last few days if we start slowly next season.

For the first time in a long time I'm fearful of the future with Fenty if this decision doesn't work out.
 

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Fenty refusing to answer the important questions as usual.

Like why was change necessary, how long is Slades contract and what happened at Cardiff!

Also this must have been going on a while, as Wilco is assistant despite never working with Slade, so the club involved in that as well.
 

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Fenty refusing to answer the important questions as usual.

Like why was change necessary, how long is Slades contract and what happened at Cardiff!

Also this must have been going on a while, as Wilco is assistant despite never working with Slade, so the club involved in that as well.

It's like when Murray got sacked with us stating it was made on the spot (or something to that effect) yet Evans and co were in place 2 days later.

There's always something afoot behind the scenes when someones sacked
 

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Basically Slade was interested in the job and he seemed a much easier option than Bignot who was pushing for change so Honest John has bottled what could've been a good long term future for short term success. I imagine he's also on a pretty healthy contract as he said when Bignot was appointed that 6 month rolling is the way forward.

The guy seems to piss more people off with every statement he makes. I chose to ignore it before but now I can't stop thinking about how much of a blatant idiot he is.
 

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If you've got a conservative councillor in charge of your club the chances are he'll make conservative decisions. Slade will probably do fine but Bignot seemed like a long-term project.
 

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Can't see Bignot's plans of developing the YT going any further then.
 

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A little surprised by this.

Fenty, certainly in recent history, seems to settle for a manager and give him time. I can only think that Bignot looked at it as too long a project and Fenty wanted things to run a little quicker than he had planned out? That said, and as mentioned already, he does come across as someone who doesn't like moving away from his comfort zone or change within the Club.

Am I correct in saying Hurst wanted a fitness coach or something and he refused? Things have moved towards that sports science type focus at this level now, whereas in previous years it was probably used more towards the PL/Championship level.

Sounds as though Bignot did a Tilson and told too many players they weren't needed mid-way through the season and ended up needing them as well?

I'm also surprised Slade wanted to go back. I know it's a job at the end of the day but wasn't his resignation/sacking all those years ago because of a fall-out?
 

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Unbelievably Fenty has said today that Bignot signed too many players and the squad was too big for him to manage.

Who has the final say on signing players John???
 

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Unbelievably Fenty has said today that Bignot signed too many players and the squad was too big for him to manage.

Who has the final say on signing players John???

There were one or two players we probably could've held off on signing for now but most were either essential or big upgrades. Can understand if Bignot promised to get some players out and didn't manage it but if Fenty wanted assurances then he shouldn't have given the go ahead on signings in the first place. It especially stinks when the squad situation would've been resolved in a month anyway so why not just stick it out and let his plans fall into place? I think he's given into pressure from some players who will either not be here next season anyway or some key ones like Andrew who weren't happy.

Either way Bignot's been treated poorly in all of this. That's the benefit of a short contract I guess, once a better looking option comes along you can bin what you've got and start again. Fenty has obviously had his eye on Slade for a while.
 

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Why won't Fenty reveal the length of Slade's contract? Talk about a lack of transparency.
 

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Still contemplating before joining in.

That Lincoln Impish fart is still a tosser, no need for reflection on that issue.

C'mon blackhaddock you can't still be mulling it over. Let's have an opinion from you.

Also have you decided what you're having for tea last night yet?
 

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Funnily enough my mother who knows sod all about football heard Fenty and Bignot arguing over dinner about 3 weeks ago, it matches nicely.

I'm a bit annoyed, Bignot came in, lost Bogle and had little time to replace anybody. Yes he signed loads of CMs but Hurst had signed shite ones and crap wingers, he could only replace so much. We did okay without being great, par for the course on our return to the league.

Something's gone on and Fenty yet again will be centre to it. Just like he was when Slade left.

Slade is a tough one, he's never been promoted but he's always done fairly well imo. However he's on the way down and last time we did that we got fucking Newell, it's like we're in a vicious circle and one man is persistently at the centre of it.
 

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Pleased that Paul Wilkinson has been installed as Slades #2.

Something has happened within the club that we the supporters will never know, but Bignot and his two sidekicks must have upset Fenty (our Chairman) to be sacked so quickly. Very unlike Fenty to make knee jerk reactions with managers, he usually becomes their friend and doesn't get rid until he really has too, which has been too late, usually.

I wanted to like Bignot, he was a breath of fresh air after Hurst with his boring interviews and often negative tactics. However Bignot appears to have tried to change too much in too short a time and 'lost the dressing room' with strange selections and weird formations. He was also losing a section of our crowd, not me: I was curious what he was up too and where he was taking us. However, having seen some of the bazaar tactics and positions players were slotted into, I did like many others worry he might be a 'blagger' and not really know what he was doing against decent opposition. Each game was completely different, personnel and tactic wise (if there were tactics, or system for the selected bunch to follow): sometimes it worked, other times it didn't.

I would like to have seen Bignot given a bit more time to be honest, but like everyone else I have no real idea what has gone on behind the scenes.

In Slade We Trust. We're All Crazy Now!

PS. Have I mentioned that Impish bloke is a Tosser?
 
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A little surprised by this.

Fenty, certainly in recent history, seems to settle for a manager and give him time. I can only think that Bignot looked at it as too long a project and Fenty wanted things to run a little quicker than he had planned out? That said, and as mentioned already, he does come across as someone who doesn't like moving away from his comfort zone or change within the Club.

Am I correct in saying Hurst wanted a fitness coach or something and he refused? Things have moved towards that sports science type focus at this level now, whereas in previous years it was probably used more towards the PL/Championship level.

Sounds as though Bignot did a Tilson and told too many players they weren't needed mid-way through the season and ended up needing them as well?

I'm also surprised Slade wanted to go back. I know it's a job at the end of the day but wasn't his resignation/sacking all those years ago because of a fall-out?

Hmm some Lincoln fans are quite intelligent aren't they...

Was Adkins a pioneer of that type of focus at the lower levels, I don't know, but I think you are spot on. Clubs that don't embrace this approach will soon be left behind. At this level more goals come from errors, when players are knackered they make more errors and will be less able to take of advantage of others' errors. Players are also more likely to get injured when tired. If clubs are not using GPS to monitor players performance in training then they are already behind the curve....
 

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Partly, I suspect.

We're quite lucky because both the Cowleys have Sports Science degrees so along with the two or three Fitness/Physio/Sports Science guys, we've effectively got four or five people having a say/role in all of that. Also helps when we have a big Uni in the City whose Sports Science students we're able to use from time to time and have access to all their equipment.

Worked for us this season. We've scored a lot of late, late goals (like this afternoon, for example) and probably scored 20-25 this season in the final 15 minutes of games. Been very noticeable how other teams have flagged and we've just overpowered them in the latter stages of games.

People would probably find some of the stuff we do a bit OTT and almost controlling (unless they do it at their Club) but it's done the job and contributed to a larger advantage. One thing we don't have, yet, is GPS. I suspect that costs a small fortune.
 

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Well Fenty said he wasn't convinced a fitness coach was worth it at the fans forum, too tight with his money as usual.

However he has said he had allowed Bignot to have one but they were waiting for the one he wanted to become available in the summer, so he must be at another club under contract. Whether Slade will want him or get someome different is another matter.
 

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