Boxing Day 2023

[Conker]

Dragged into?
We’re already well and truly in the fucker.

Has anyone worked out what the two ‘stonewall’ penalties not given in the first yet? Bit of a weirdo Artell is.

 

[joethegill]

Oh we lost again without scoring. How fun.

 

[Limerick Mariner]

It has to be McGoldrick yesterday Although you wouldn't be far wrong if you suggested Crowley. Jones playing the role of Rep.

Yesterday was L2 total football. Fluid to the point of wet. We just miss a Neeskens in the middle of the park....oh and a better goalkeeper and defence.

The big crowd certainly got their money's worth yesterday.

Trying to work who Doncaster are though - the Peru side that had been (allegedly) bribed by the Argentinians in 78

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

Or maybe Zaire in 74.

20% possession says it all.

 

[Limerick Mariner]

Or maybe Zaire in 74.

20% possession says it all.

We are Scotland, mostly poor, with occasional flourishes of quality when other teams back off us, with a better keeper mind.

 

[Son of Cod]

Lowly Grimsby seem to be struggling.

Harrogate beating us at home is pish poor but we weren't expecting anything at Field Mill. Before that we were unbeaten in six in the league. Was always gonna be tough switching system and style so drastically with the same set of players.

He said before the game we would be a similar game to harrogate, which rankled a few here, though with both finishing 2-0 maybe he was right.

Throughout the game he was an embarressment, he wouldn’t leave the 4 th official alone

Harrogate played with the ball more than I thought they would, to be fair. Do Artell and Stags have previous? He's achieved a bit of a RATTLING.

I’m more concerned now than at the end of the Hurst tenure. The bigged up improvement in the quality of the squad changes in the summer just hasn’t transpired and our near best in class resilience of the past two seasons has fallen off a cliff. I looked at bench today and immediately thought we better not get any injuries. When we did the promising start just imploded.

It all feels a bit Hartlepool at the moment…

Not concerned in the slightest really, we'll finish midtable comfortably I reckon. Mansfield are the best team in the division by some way for me. The squad we have now needs a lot of work to be where we want to be but it's still considerably better than either of the sides we've seen relegated from this level.

It's all Town fans being Town fans, in my opinion. 4 days ago we were 8 points off the playoffs and about to smash Harrogate and go to Mansfield and upset them. Now Artell is no better than Hurst and we're off down if we're not careful. We harp on about being patient and wanting steady progression and entertaining football but when we hit a blip in the name of that, it's the end of the world.

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

As long as you don't have Hurst then at least the type and attractiveness of the football on show is better. So that's a clear betterment.

Unbeaten in 6 sounds fab but doesn't tell the whole story as you know. This run included draws at a completely out of form FGR, a draw at home to the bottom side Sutton and a draw at a limited Newport. All this after losing to Zaire 74.

I agree Grimsby will finish mid-table comfortably, they will also be comfortably outside the playoffs. Like last season. If I'm right, a poor return after all the unexpected income from the fantastic cup run. What did that rumour to bring? That should result in a noticeable upgrade on last season.

Don't know much about Artell but seems a character and definitely winds folks up.

 

[AdamStag]

Harrogate beating us at home is pish poor but we weren't expecting anything at Field Mill. Before that we were unbeaten in six in the league. Was always gonna be tough switching system and style so drastically with the same set of players.


Harrogate played with the ball more than I thought they would, to be fair. Do Artell and Stags have previous? He's achieved a bit of a RATTLING.

Not concerned in the slightest really, we'll finish midtable comfortably I reckon. Mansfield are the best team in the division by some way for me. The squad we have now needs a lot of work to be where we want to be but it's still considerably better than either of the sides we've seen relegated from this level.

It's all Town fans being Town fans, in my opinion. 4 days ago we were 8 points off the playoffs and about to smash Harrogate and go to Mansfield and upset them. Now Artell is no better than Hurst and we're off down if we're not careful. We harp on about being patient and wanting steady progression and entertaining football but when we hit a blip in the name of that, it's the end of the world.

He was just another manager that reminded me how lucky we are to have clough.

It was a moment when we realised we’ve got it good at present.

As said before, you were one of the best sides i’ve seen this season at field mill for the first 30 mins.

You’ve the makings of a more than a competent side. As said earlier in the season still believe you need someone with something more about them physically if you’re going to play rose and aisa

 

[Gladders]

Harrogate beating us at home is pish poor but we weren't expecting anything at Field Mill. Before that we were unbeaten in six in the league. Was always gonna be tough switching system and style so drastically with the same set of players.


Harrogate played with the ball more than I thought they would, to be fair. Do Artell and Stags have previous? He's achieved a bit of a RATTLING.

Not concerned in the slightest really, we'll finish midtable comfortably I reckon. Mansfield are the best team in the division by some way for me. The squad we have now needs a lot of work to be where we want to be but it's still considerably better than either of the sides we've seen relegated from this level.

It's all Town fans being Town fans, in my opinion. 4 days ago we were 8 points off the playoffs and about to smash Harrogate and go to Mansfield and upset them. Now Artell is no better than Hurst and we're off down if we're not careful. We harp on about being patient and wanting steady progression and entertaining football but when we hit a blip in the name of that, it's the end of the world.

Always the same with our fans, win a game and we are winning the league by 10 points, lose and we are going down by 10, its why i stopped reading the fishy several years ago!

Unfortunately Hurst wasted the cup money and didn't fix our problems from last season, and whilst trying to fix it made us worse at what we were good at. Now Artell has to fix those problems, this season is now pretty much written off unless Artell is a miracle worker in the Jan window!

 

[Who Needs Mourinho]

What I do find amusing is the number of supporters and Managers who don't appear to know the rules of the game. In particular the offside rule.
For Barrow's 1st goal one of the Stockport defenders went over the goal line after trying to cut out the cross that led to Spence's shot. Under the rules of the game as his own momentum took him off he is deemed to be on the pitch stood on the goal line. Because of that Whitfield only had to be level with the last defender on the pitch to be classed as onside, so being goal side of the goalkeeper was in this case totally irrelevant. Not that Dave Challinor appears to be aware of that particular law.

And if you watch it back and pause it when the shot comes in Whitfield is actually goalside of the keeper and the nearest defender to him. So that one you mention that went off the pitch is the only one he isn’t goalside of so he’s still offside.

 

[EnglishRed]

Some nice sides of boxing day beef on show here.

 

[WhiteRussian]

I thought it was only girls who couldn't understand the off side rule. Well, other than refs obviously.

 

[Son of Cod]

As long as you don't have Hurst then at least the type and attractiveness of the football on show is better. So that's a clear betterment.

Unbeaten in 6 sounds fab but doesn't tell the whole story as you know. This run included draws at a completely out of form FGR, a draw at home to the bottom side Sutton and a draw at a limited Newport. All this after losing to Zaire 74.

I agree Grimsby will finish mid-table comfortably, they will also be comfortably outside the playoffs. Like last season. If I'm right, a poor return after all the unexpected income from the fantastic cup run. What did that rumour to bring? That should result in a noticeable upgrade on last season.

Don't know much about Artell but seems a character and definitely winds folks up.

The FGR and Sutton matches were under Pearson and Davies though. Artell started with a draw at MK, then a win at home to Crewe and that point at Newport. I don't agree that a point at Newport is to be sniffed at. They're a tough side to play against. I think 5 points from that was a solid start.for Artell. It's just been a poor festive period so far.

He was just another manager that reminded me how lucky we are to have clough.

It was a moment when we realised we’ve got it good at present.

As said before, you were one of the best sides i’ve seen this season at field mill for the first 30 mins.

You’ve the makings of a more than a competent side. As said earlier in the season still believe you need someone with something more about them physically if you’re going to play rose and aisa

Yep, I'm not a fan of Eisa. Scores bangers every few matches but offers little else. Agree we need more physicality in the side though, Pyke offers that up top to be fair. I'm still not convinced by Rose in a three though. We need players in the middle that are both physical and good on the ball too as too many of ours are one or the other. Your midfielders are tidy and battlers from what I've seen and that's a massive part of why you're so good.

 

[THE LAST WALTZ]

I thought it was only girls who couldn't understand the off side rule. Well, other than refs obviously.

Thanks Joey

 

[AdamStag]

The FGR and Sutton matches were under Pearson and Davies though. Artell started with a draw at MK, then a win at home to Crewe and that point at Newport. I don't agree that a point at Newport is to be sniffed at. They're a tough side to play against. I think 5 points from that was a solid start.for Artell. It's just been a poor festive period so far.

Yep, I'm not a fan of Eisa. Scores bangers every few matches but offers little else. Agree we need more physicality in the side though, Pyke offers that up top to be fair. I'm still not convinced by Rose in a three though. We need players in the middle that are both physical and good on the ball too as too many of ours are one or the other. Your midfielders are tidy and battlers from what I've seen and that's a massive part of why you're so good.

The reason we’re good is that we do the basics right, when you had the ball yesterday you didn’t get any time in the ball, we will harry, we will pester and we won’t leave the players alone, we do the basics right, that’s what cloughs wanted from the start.

The midfield is the engine of that and by doing the above we dominate sides through possession and go from there.

I don’t think we do anything brilliantly well, we’re just consistently 7/10, which is enough for what you need.

I still don’t buy into the fact that we’re one of the favourites to go up.

 

[Conker]

Clough has changed our shape a bit in the last two against Sutton and Grimsby, moving Brunt to midfield from defence. If Leicester have a recall in January I’m worried they may recall to move him up because he is turning out to be very, very good.

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

The FGR and Sutton matches were under Pearson and Davies though. Artell started with a draw at MK, then a win at home to Crewe and that point at Newport. I don't agree that a point at Newport is to be sniffed at. They're a tough side to play against. I think 5 points from that was a solid start.for Artell. It's just been a poor festive period so far.

I wasn't the one who said "Before that we were unbeaten in six in the league...."

More importantly

"Unfortunately Hurst wasted the cup money and didn't fix our problems from last season, and whilst trying to fix it made us worse at what we were good at" = struggling

That sentence says it all. I was surprised some (one?) Town fan still wanted to persist with Hurstball.

Yuk!

 

[gary]

Sutton dickheads damaged 27 seats at Wimbledon yesterday. The damage was probably caused by the dopey 15 year olds giving it the big one outside before the game started . Hopefully their caught on camera.

 

[Limerick Mariner]

Harrogate beating us at home is pish poor but we weren't expecting anything at Field Mill. Before that we were unbeaten in six in the league. Was always gonna be tough switching system and style so drastically with the same set of players.


Harrogate played with the ball more than I thought they would, to be fair. Do Artell and Stags have previous? He's achieved a bit of a RATTLING.

Not concerned in the slightest really, we'll finish midtable comfortably I reckon. Mansfield are the best team in the division by some way for me. The squad we have now needs a lot of work to be where we want to be but it's still considerably better than either of the sides we've seen relegated from this level.

It's all Town fans being Town fans, in my opinion. 4 days ago we were 8 points off the playoffs and about to smash Harrogate and go to Mansfield and upset them. Now Artell is no better than Hurst and we're off down if we're not careful. We harp on about being patient and wanting steady progression and entertaining football but when we hit a blip in the name of that, it's the end of the world.

Reason for the concern - we are 21st in the last 10 form table, only have one fit striker (Pyke clearly better playing wide, Wilson - scoring record good but has been a sick note for most of the season). Our only CB cover is Luke Waterfall and his ageing legs. Our player of the season has gone backwards. We haven’t kept a clean sheet for ages and look to have errors in us that lead to goals every game.

Our recent track record of business in the January window hasn’t been good - that needs to change this time. 2 might be enough - striker and CB but we need some quality.