Stickied Championship - Away Support Thread 2023/24

[QPR_Matt]

Over 2k baggies going up to Leeds tonight. That’s very good from them. How many did wolves take up last season midweek whilst top of the league?

Free travel though, isn't it? Friday away days seem to bring more numbers anyway as most people can make a night of it without work the next day.

 

[villa loyal]

Free travel though, isn't it? Friday away days seem to bring more numbers anyway as most people can make a night of it without work the next day.

Didn’t know about the free travel.

 

[stevenbear]

I remember when you played Doncaster in play off final and it was mentioned that you could have sold 100,000 tickets.

The club claimed to have had a quarter of a million enquiries. The semi didn't sell out though. A quarter of a million watched the title parade in 1992 too

 

[blademan89]

Imagine being as deluded as a Leeds fan, it's incredible

 

[Brad-Owl]

One of the 1,500 Reading fans heading up to Ipswich tomorrow. First visit for me, early train up from Portsmouth - what is the town centre like? Any good pubs off the beaten track? (would rather not go to some away fans pub with a load of shirters)

Town center is ok and not that far from ground, there's a couple of home fans only pubs on walk to ground but we've always still gone in them and had no trouble.
Away fans pub called Station across from train station is crap.

 

[blademan89]

Town center is ok and not that far from ground, there's a couple of home fans only pubs on walk to ground but we've always still gone in them and had no trouble.
Away fans pub called Station across from train station is crap.

It was ok when you got relegated against palace pal

 

[SoutheySWFC]

It was ok when you got relegated against palace pal

Now now......play nice or you Windies tour pic is going up

 

[stevenbear]

Imagine being as deluded as a Leeds fan, it's incredible

Where's the delusion? I reckon most people were being reasonable and factual until this troll message of yours!

 

[GTFCfish]

Over 2k baggies going up to Leeds tonight.

Hope they enjoyed it.

 

[SoutheySWFC]

Where's the delusion?

That suddenly you need capacity for the population of Scotland despite never needing it.

Leeds United FC based on City/Catchment area should be huge but the city has never really took to it and you rely on support from outside the area that cottoned on and was bred through the Revie era.

Has the club ever been original?

Yes the ads promoting top flight football at Elland Road in the Sheffield papers in the 70s still fucks me off...

 

[SoutheySWFC]

Hope they enjoyed it.

Any excuse to leave Smethwick is enjoyable

 

[stevenbear]

That suddenly you need capacity for the population of Scotland despite never needing it.

Leeds United FC based on City/Catchment are should be huge but the city has never really took to it and you rely on support from outside the area that cottoned on and was bred through the Revie era.

Has the club ever been original?

But Sheff Weds would also need the "capacity of Scotland" (or 100k as I suggested) to satisfy demand for an all-Sheffield do or die promotion game. It's not delusional to suggest such a thing

Factor in that Leeds is significantly larger than Sheffield as a city/urban area/economic zone and Leeds have significant support outside W Yorks and I don't see any "delusion" in the figures suggested

I totally agree with your second paragraph by the way. It's Leeds Utd in a nutshell, but I don't see how you can say that and in the same breath deny that that there's a floating and casual potential fanbase of hundreds of thousands

Don't get third paragraph at all

 

[SoutheySWFC]

But Sheff Weds would also need the "capacity of Scotland" (or 100k as I suggested) to satisfy demand for an all-Sheffield do or die promotion game. It's not delusional to suggest such a thing

Factor in that Leeds is significantly larger than Sheffield as a city/urban area/economic zone and Leeds have significant support outside W Yorks and I don't see any "delusion"

I totally agree with your second paragraph by the way. It's Leeds Utd in a nutshell, but I don't see how you can say that and in the same breath deny that that there's a floating and casual potential fanbase of hundreds of thousands

But Sheff Weds would also need the "capacity of Scotland" (or 100k as I suggested) to satisfy demand for an all-Sheffield do or die promotion game. It's not delusional to suggest such a thing

Factor in that Leeds is significantly larger than Sheffield as a city/urban area/economic zone and Leeds have significant support outside W Yorks and I don't see any "delusion"

I totally agree with your second paragraph by the way. It's Leeds Utd in a nutshell, but I don't see how you can say that and in the same breath deny that that there's a floating and casual potential fanbase of hundreds of thousands

I disagree, Sheffield wouldn't need owt like that number, an FA Cup semi derby is a true one off so ignore that, 40-45k is ample imho.

Back to the point you avoided, Leeds have never averaged over 40k in 99 years or so despite being champions and the best in the country, why?

 

[SoutheySWFC]

For the avoidance of doubt

: Leeds away support fucking superb
: Leeds home support average

common denominator mind, both are full are delusional cock wombles

 

[Another Walkley Owl]

I disagree, Sheffield wouldn't need owt like that number, an FA Cup semi derby is a true one off so ignore that, 40-45k is ample imho.

Back to the point you avoided, Leeds have never averaged over 40k in 99 years or so despite being champions and the best in the country, why?

So you think that in a fantasy world where the ground has unlimited size to fit in both set of supporters, the crowd for a promotion crunch match between the Sheffield teams would be smaller than what they average between them?
Call me delusional if you want but that's bollocks, we alone had 38k for a League 1 promotion game v Wycombe with many more unable to get tickets.
I think the Blades would be able able to turn out similar numbers in the same scenario.

Quarter of a million Leeds though? Give over

 

[SoutheySWFC]

So you think that in a fantasy world where the ground has unlimited size to fit in both set of supporters, the crowd for a promotion crunch match between the Sheffield teams would be smaller than what they average between them?
Call me delusional if you want but that's bollocks, we alone had 38k for a League 1 promotion game v Wycombe with many more unable to get tickets.
I think the Blades would be able able to turn out similar numbers in the same scenario.

Quarter of a million Leeds though? Give over

I'm a stats geek, I back my prediction, it's all supposition anyway as being honest the EFL/Plod/HRH etc would never allow a game between us that late in a season

 

[villa loyal]

2150 Baggies

 

[SuffolkBlue]

One of the 1,500 Reading fans heading up to Ipswich tomorrow. First visit for me, early train up from Portsmouth - what is the town centre like? Any good pubs off the beaten track? (would rather not go to some away fans pub with a load of shirters)

Head to Isaacs by the waterfront. Great little pub. Decent numbers for you even at £12

 

[Derby1971]

Where's the delusion? I reckon most people were being reasonable and factual until this troll message of yours!

Calm down pal, Your Leeds not Manu, Liverpool, Arsenal, or even Spurs, you have great away support, but for a city your size you have average home support at best, and West Yorkshire is full of Manu fans, Leeds are not as big as you think you are, even when winning the top league your home support was behind teams like Manu, Liverpool and Newcastle, your home support is no better than Villa, Wednesday and Sunderland. If all these teams where in the same position as yourself, You Leeds lot really believe your own hype.

 

[stevenbear]

I disagree, Sheffield wouldn't need owt like that number, an FA Cup semi derby is a true one off so ignore that, 40-45k is ample imho.

Back to the point you avoided, Leeds have never averaged over 40k in 99 years or so despite being champions and the best in the country, why?

An FA Cup semi is no more a one off than a final day promotion decider. I'd say the latter is way more exciting and would have way more demand

When Leeds were the best in the county they'd come from literally nowhere and were in a city that was indifferent to and even hostile to the game. A professional football club in Leeds was something the Football League wanted moreso than anything. By 1974 we were posting the third best average in the country, then we were shit again and crowds dipped.

Cardiff could all of a sudden become the best team in the country and win a few trophies, but it would take time to grow as a club, same thing with Leeds in the 60's (although the current Cardiff has way more history than the Leeds of 1964)

After the second coming in 1990 we never had the capacity to average 40k, but even the great Liverpool side of the 80's couldn't average 40k, nor could George Graham's Arsenal or Howard Kendall's Everton around the same period, and they definitely had the capacity. Our few years at the top under OLeary were sold out and there was a waiting list etc., but couldn't physically get over 40k

For the record, from Howard Wilkinson's first full season until the day Ken Bates took full control of prices etc. we had the 4th-5th highest aggregate crowds of any English club. That included a title and a number of top 5 finishes, but also about 20% of those games were played in Div 2

 

[stevenbear]

Quarter of a million Leeds though? Give over

That was the number the club claimed had enquired about playoff final tickets, I'd take it with a pinch of salt. It's also the number who watched the title parade in 1992 and a very reliable figure

 

[stevenbear]

Calm down pal, Your Leeds not Manu, Liverpool, Arsenal, or even Spurs, you have great away support, but for a city your size you have average home support at best, and West Yorkshire is full of Manu fans, Leeds are not as big as you think you are, even when winning the top league your home support was behind teams like Manu, Liverpool and Newcastle, your home support is no better than Villa, Wednesday and Sunderland. If all these teams where in the same position as yourself, You Leeds lot really believe your own hype.

Calm down lol! You're the one all angst-ridden about Leeds United. We're more often than not a second division club and we've happened to have a couple of spells of success. SO no, of course we're don't have the fanbase of Man U and Liverpool, nobody is suggesting we do so you should calm down and stop being so insecure

 

[villa loyal]

There was over 37k at villa today to watch a midtable side with 2 wins in 14 games. This game last season would have attracted around 33k and we were around the play off spots.

 

[Another Walkley Owl]

That was the number the club claimed had enquired about playoff final tickets, I'd take it with a pinch of salt. It's also the number who watched the title parade in 1992 and a very reliable figure

I'm sure the title parade number is fairly accurate, but it doesn't cost a penny unlike the 40 quid for matches and generally in a one Club City like Leeds a third of the City will turn out, how many turned up for Leicester's parade the other year?

 

[villa loyal]

An FA Cup semi is no more a one off than a final day promotion decider. I'd say the latter is way more exciting and would have way more demand

When Leeds were the best in the county they'd come from literally nowhere and were in a city that was indifferent to and even hostile to the game. A professional football club in Leeds was something the Football League wanted moreso than anything. By 1974 we were posting the third best average in the country, then we were shit again and crowds dipped.

Cardiff could all of a sudden become the best team in the country and win a few trophies, but it would take time to grow as a club, same thing with Leeds in the 60's (although the current Cardiff has way more history than the Leeds of 1964)

After the second coming in 1990 we never had the capacity to average 40k, but even the great Liverpool side of the 80's couldn't average 40k, nor could George Graham's Arsenal or Howard Kendall's Everton around the same period, and they definitely had the capacity. Our few years at the top under OLeary were sold out and there was a waiting list etc., but couldn't physically get over 40k

For the record, from Howard Wilkinson's first full season until the day Ken Bates took full control of prices etc. we had the 4th-5th highest aggregate crowds of any English club. That included a title and a number of top 5 finishes, but also about 20% of those games were played in Div 2

You make some valid points about restricted capacity. During the O’Leary years you would have had some bigger crowds if your ground was big enough, and would have averaged over 40k easily. The one season under O’Neil half of our home games were sell outs and we averaged 40k, so would have averaged more if we had a 50k stadium. Before you got relegated Villa and Leeds averaged 36k taking in all of the prem seasons up to then. The 80s were a bad time for attendances. We had a 34k average when we won the league, which was the third highest in the country. 10 years previous we had a 32k average in the third division.

 

[villa loyal]

I'm sure the title parade number is fairly accurate, but it doesn't cost a penny unlike the 40 quid for matches and generally in a one Club City like Leeds a third of the City will turn out, how many turned up for Leicester's parade the other year?

240.000 turned out for Leicester. You can bet a lot weren’t Leicester fans, like a lot wouldn’t have been Leeds fans at their parade.

 

[Depthcharge]

You all want to be Leeds.

 

[villa loyal]

2895 Forest
1495 Reading

 

[villa loyal]

You all want to be Leeds.

We certainly don’t. Villa are the more superior club.

 

[villa loyal]

Norwich has the bottom tier at Millwall today.