Stickied League 2 Away Support Thread 2023/24

[northstandexile]

Latest averages,
Crawley have sunk to the bottom following their plucky showing at the end of the line in Cleethorpes, but Notts County proudly keep their willys waving after Bradford City disappointing attendance in Wales and Wrexham's sell out in Greater Manchester.

1736​	Notts County
1562​	Grimsby Town
1308​	Mansfield Town
1256​	Wrexham
1214​	Bradford City
993​	Walsall
913​	Swindon Town
903​	Stockport County
874​	Gillingham
684​	MK Dons
680​	AFC Wimbledon
635​	Doncaster Rovers
524​	Tranmere Rovers
405​	Newport County
382​	Barrow
355​	Crewe Alexandra
305​	Accrington Stanley
270​	Colchester United
249​	Harrogate Town
240​	Morecambe
215​	Forest Green Rovers
178​	Salford City
152​	Sutton United
149​	Crawley Town

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

Forget pride, it's embarrassment that should be the overriding emotion felt on this thread. Notts County FC top of the willy waving standings again!!! That's just plain wrong.

 

[Indian Dan]

Given the apathy here after Saturdays result ours is gonna take a big hit away at Swindon on Saturday, especially as we always play absolutely shit there too.
Sub 300 my guess.

Moaning about the ticket prices, I see.

 

[Son of Cod]

Moaning about the ticket prices, I see.

Completely valid complaint to be fair.

 

[Indian Dan]

Bollocks. It’s £3 more than what you charge for covered seats in your main stand. For the overall cost of any away day £3 is shrapnel.

 

[chief]

Bollocks. It’s £3 more than what you charge for covered seats in your main stand. For the overall cost of any away day £3 is shrapnel.

When cost of living and train prices are at an all time high, charging more than everybody else isn't a good look no matter how much more it is.

Personally I think what we charge is too much. Twenty is plenty.

 

[Son of Cod]

Bollocks. It’s £3 more than what you charge for covered seats in your main stand. For the overall cost of any away day £3 is shrapnel.

You're comparing the most expensive seats at BP to your away end. We charge £22 for away tickets. However, it's not about the difference being £3 or £5 or whatever, it's about your club money grabbing by charging above the average for the division. Going off your argument there's no end in sight. Let's just nudge it up by £3 every season then, shall we? We'll be paying £40 for L2 football before long. I'm surprised you're defending it.

 

[Indian Dan]

You're comparing the most expensive seats at BP to your away end. We charge £22 for away tickets. However, it's not about the difference being £3 or £5 or whatever, it's about your club money grabbing by charging above the average for the division. Going off your argument there's no end in sight. Let's just nudge it up by £3 every season then, shall we? We'll be paying £40 for L2 football before long. I'm surprised you're defending it.

I’m comparing our most expensive seats to your most expensive seats. Away fans just happen to be in the same stand as home fans. I’m not defending the £27 I’m just pointing out the difference isn’t that great. I’m sure if clubs could agree reciprocal ticket prices some clubs wouldn’t take it up.

 

[GTFCfish]

Will be 500+ I reckon, it's an easy one from London for the South East massive who haven't had a nearby match yet. I can't see many coming from GY though, but I don't think there were really last season at this one.

For some reason I thought there were train strikes on too.
Plus despite what tetchy Indian Dan says £27 is an absolutely disgusting price to charge and to actually defend it is pretty pathetic.

 

[Indian Dan]

Bit rich coming from a club with the 2nd highest ST prices in L2.

So you’re OK with getting ripped by your own club but not a 1 off £3 for 1 away game.

All 24 EFL League Two teams in order of their season ticket prices (Ranked)

FLW ranks every League Two team in order of who has the cheapest and most expensive season ticket prices.

footballleagueworld.co.uk

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

Swindon should be allowed to charge more as they've never been #stained.

Plus the amount of goals witnessed at the County Ground it's worth the extra few quid. Have one less pint and enjoy the game.

 

[Amber Nectar]

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[GTFCfish]

Bit rich coming from a club with the 2nd highest ST prices in L2.

So you’re OK with getting ripped by your own club but not a 1 off £3 for 1 away game.

All 24 EFL League Two teams in order of their season ticket prices (Ranked)

FLW ranks every League Two team in order of who has the cheapest and most expensive season ticket prices.

footballleagueworld.co.uk

We charge away fans £22.
You charge away fans £27.

So this £3 difference you mention is, to coin your own phrase - “bollocks”

Have a nice day Dan.

 

[Son of Cod]

I’m comparing our most expensive seats to your most expensive seats. Away fans just happen to be in the same stand as home fans. I’m not defending the £27 I’m just pointing out the difference isn’t that great. I’m sure if clubs could agree reciprocal ticket prices some clubs wouldn’t take it up.

The difference being that our most expensive seats are for people that choose to sit there, we give away fans the cheapest tickets in the ground.

The difference isn't great, I agree on that. It's the principal of the matter for me. You're creeping towards £30 when we should be focusing on keeping the cosy down around £20. £22 at Blundell Park is still too much, in my opinion.

Bit rich coming from a club with the 2nd highest ST prices in L2.

So you’re OK with getting ripped by your own club but not a 1 off £3 for 1 away game.

All 24 EFL League Two teams in order of their season ticket prices (Ranked)

FLW ranks every League Two team in order of who has the cheapest and most expensive season ticket prices.

footballleagueworld.co.uk

What that article fails to note is that our early bird ticket prices started at £360 and were available into July, whereas a lot of clubs at this level only had offers that were only available in May. Most of the ground was snapped up before the early bird offer ended, as they were last season. I think I've only ever met one Town fan in the last few years that bought a season ticket after early bird sales. We're also one of a handful of clubs at this level maxing out home capacity regularly. Us Mansfield, Stockport and Wrexham I'd guess off the top of my head? Everyone else has thousands of empty seats most weeks.

It's also not a one off game either. You lot, Crewe, Wimbledon, Rochdale, I'm sure there's a few more have all charged in excess of £25 for away tickets in the last couple of seasons. It's generally teams that have been in L1 in recent seasons, which just strengthens the case for tiered caps on tickets prices in my opinion.

 

[WilsdenBantam]

£20 literally is plenty, nothing else should be defended imo. A couple of extra quid isn’t a good mentality to have either, that’s £46 for the year for away games, then maybe it goes up a couple of quid the year after etc. football gets less and less affordable every year, it’s something fans of all teams should be united on not have a tribal defence of their own club for ripping them off. It’s league 2 ffs, there are times that even I feel ripped off it’s so shit!

 

[F!RTHY]

Firmly believe a cap should be implemented for all leagues in the EFL. It’s been talked to death about and the general consensus is, we all tend to agree on price capping.

Without regulatory changes from above, nothing changes, because it only takes one penny pinching club to demand an extra few quid above what we all consider to be enough, and others will just follow suit - because they can.

Proud that we haven’t taken that stance. Ours have remained £20 for as long as I can remember - even in the league above. Some may disagree with our on the day prices (increase of £5) but I tend to agree with that decision. Which is another matter altogether.

 

[Gladders]

Not sure how anyone can defend £27 for a league 2 ticket, whether it's only a few quid more than elsewhere or not. £22 is bad enough, never mind an almost 25% increase on that

 

[The Jovial Forester]

Also, three quid's more than ten percent. A ten percent price rise in anything else wouldn't sound great.

 

[Indian Dan]

Well, my last word on the subject. If anyone is going to base their decision to go to an away game or not cos the ticket price is £4 more than their own club charges is a knob!

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

And that's the end of that chapter

 

[Pilot_Phonic]

Back on topic - there are going to be a shift in the attendance table in October. We have only had 3 away games in the league this season, and we have 4 league away games in October.

So far, we are taking 1300 to Crawley (ish), 2700 to Bradford and 1700 to Mansfield. Notts to come a little later on, don't know how many they will give us (hoping for more than 2k as its on a Saturday for a change and non-covid policies should be in place (they were since fans allowed due to covid).

I'd imagine there are clubs like us where they have had a small amount of away games so far!

 

[Conker]

£27 for Swindon or Crewe hahahahahah off the fucking rails

 

[Mighty_Bantam]

Back on topic - there are going to be a shift in the attendance table in October. We have only had 3 away games in the league this season, and we have 4 league away games in October.

So far, we are taking 1300 to Crawley (ish), 2700 to Bradford and 1700 to Mansfield. Notts to come a little later on, don't know how many they will give us (hoping for more than 2k as its on a Saturday for a change and non-covid policies should be in place (they were since fans allowed due to covid).

I'd imagine there are clubs like us where they have had a small amount of away games so far!

Similar with us. Biggest allocation we've had this far is Morecambe which was 1600.

Sadly the only major allocation we'll get is Donny, where we took 4k last year. We'll maybe shift 2.5k to Notts too.

 

[Essex2Wessex]

£27 for League Two football is a rip-off, unless it's in padded seats with snacks and drinks brought to you. Or just maybe if it's some dazzling top of the league team stunning us all with their craft and skills unprecedented at this level. Swindon can at least aspire to the latter this year, they are clearly on the ball on the field.

Mind you, looking around nearby National League clubs to me, I see Maidenhead want £20 for unreserved and mostly uncovered standing, which also seems a rip-off for that level...

 

[GTFCfish]

Well, my last word on the subject. If anyone is going to base their decision to go to an away game or not cos the ticket price is £4 more than their own club charges is a knob!

£4 now

You just making these numbers up as you go along chief?

 

[Indian Dan]

Well, it all depends on which club doesn’t it. Crewe would be £0.

 

[chief]

£4 now

You just making these numbers up as you go along chief?

Don't bring me into this!

 

[Indian Dan]

And, again, everyone seems to have ignored my point. I’ve already agreed £27 is too high.

The difference in pricing shouldn’t be a deciding factor about whether you go or don’t go to an away game. It’s probably the cheapest component of the day out if you have to travel for a bit and like a drink/food.

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

And, again, everyone seems to have ignored my point. I’ve already agreed £27 is too high.

The difference in pricing shouldn’t be a deciding factor about whether you go or don’t go to an away game. It’s probably the cheapest component of the day out if you have to travel for a bit and like a drink/food.

I certainly haven't ignored it, I agree.

For me an away trip is a day out, petrol money, 2/3 pints, a bite to eat pre match and hopefully 3 points. Value for money is well down the list.

£27 for Swindon or Crewe is as ridiculous as the £20-22 I spent watching us in an uncovered terrace in the National League. It's too much but twenty is plenty , for how long?

If an extra £4-5 is the breaking point, then have one less pint , or don't order a side of chips. Much better than not going. Problem solved

 

[Son of Cod]

You know it's a terrible take when The_Viking_Magpie agrees with you.